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re: "Americans spend more on health care than anyone". What if it is due to consumer choices?
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:58 pm to MSMHater
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:58 pm to MSMHater
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True, but to get the fancy diagnostics and pharmaceuticals that really hit our cost factor, they would have to pay for that, or have insurance and a diagnosis to cover the testing.
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They get it for free, dont pay and hospitals eat the cost/pass it on to people with insurance
Posted on 4/23/18 at 3:11 pm to Cosmo
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They get it for free, dont pay and hospitals eat the cost/pass it on to people with insurance
An ER stabilizes and sends home. ER's do not treat diseases.
If a patient with Hep C is admitted for hepatic ecephalopathy (i.e. confusion), they are given meds to fix the symptoms (lactulose), stabilized, and sent home. They don't get a transplant. Don't get Sovaldi. Don't even get scoped. Just sent home with a good luck and instruction to follow up with a clinician.
If you walk into the ER with a torn ACL, do they surgically repair it for you there?
If you walk into the ER with a knot in your throat that turns out to be throat cancer, do they treat you there? For free?
If you roll in with neuropathy secondary to your diabetes, do they arrange for your diabetes education, insulin pump and glucose monitoring? No. They refer you to me, and I charge you for all of it. Same with the GI that treats your HCV. Same with the ortho that repairs your ACL. Same with the oncologist who prescribes your chemo.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 4/23/18 at 3:21 pm to Cosmo
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They get it for free, dont pay and hospitals eat the cost/pass it on to people with insurance
If it makes you feel better to believe that canard, then more power to you. I think if you looked at the P&L's of some of he major hospital companies in the area , they do quite well even when the freeloaders are factored in. They have a before tax income of about 9 or 10% on average and since most of them are non(not for) profit, they get to keep it so long as it goes to bonuses and physical expansion.
1. They jack the price up because they can. In most areas now, there really is not any type of competition between hospitals. On the Northshore for example, you have the choice of Ochsner and Tulane with Ochsner having the bigger footprint and positioning. No competition means they can charge you pretty good
2. Like the Michigan man said, over utilization of resources. I know physicians that lament that they tend to see the same people over and over again for whatever. Had an Optho friend tell me about this one patient that any time her eye would itch she would schedule an appointment and wear out the front office only to be told that it was a mild allergy eye or some sort of non threatening irritation .
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