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re: 2 black guys arrested at a Philadelphia Starbucks by 8 cops

Posted on 4/17/18 at 8:42 am to
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 8:42 am to
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so they don't have to confront an uncomfortable reality.


What is this reality? Private property rights?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36503 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:01 am to
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What is this reality? Private property rights?


Classic case of grossly simplifying the issue, right here. A private business can’t refuse to serve someone on the basis of race, for example, so ‘private property rights’ as an end all really isn’t an argument. It also ignores the ridiculous overreaction of law enforcement here and the thorny issue of race.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3031 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:05 am to
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What is this reality? Private property rights?


Yes and no. And the reason it's not as simple is some business owners didn't let black people enter, exercising true blanket discrimination, until well into the color TV era and forced to by the Federal Government to step in.

A Starbucks isn't just "Private Property", it's also a "Public Accommodation." As a public accommodation, the
provisions of the Civil Rights act of 1964 are applicable - thou shalt not discriminate on the basis of race, color, or national origin.

The question is whether or not a policy that is not universally enforced can be considered discrimination. Per Legalzoom it can be, but I didn't look farther than that. If (as some stories say) there was a white girl in that same Starbucks as a non-paying customer at the same time those 2 guys got kicked out, this looks even worse.

LINK

Keep in mind this is Starbucks, not the OT Coffee Shop with one location in Baton Rouge. There's video of 2 black guys being led out of a Starbucks by the police and 1 million purple headed white girls willing to line up and say this never happened to them in nearly identical circumstances.

There's also plenty of corporate strategy documents about Starbucks being a "Third place", and even their Twitter handle is some BS about making the world a better place.

Also, since this is Starbucks - from here on out they're in a lose-lose situation. Pulling in $20 billion/year in revenue their best course of action is to get out of the news as quickly as possible. This thing will be settled out of court for some 'undisclosed' amount.

If this were the OT Coffee Shop of Baton Rouge, the best course of action would probably be to stick this out and start pulling in conservative money.

Oh, for scope of where any settlement may end up, here's $600k from Denny's for a waiter ignoring a black family.

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