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re: a conservative defense of Mrs. Obama (the over-the-top attacks on PT)

Posted on 4/7/18 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 12:50 pm to
Great post (especially before your cave-edit to appease the deplorable folks you are lecturing.)

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I was able to get him to see so many things about conservatism that made sense. And I changed a lot of his preconceived notions about the South. He honestly believed that the sight of a "Rebel Flag" simply meant the person was a racist. He said all of his friends and family back home believed that. I changed his mind.

And then, at a tailgate with my father in law... the N-word was uttered countless times. And most of the progress I had made was lost.
But this is reality. There is a myth that the civil war wasn't fought over slavery (because some people can't be bothered to read the state by state declarations). Your father in law's behavior is upsetting but hardly surprising...nor is the casual way that you remark about it. It doesn't sound like you informed your father in law that his behavior is unacceptable after all...


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When some of you folks go too far in your attacks on Mrs. Obama... and I mean some truly cringe-worthy statements, some statements that are either racist, borderline racist, or COULD BE EASILY interpreted as such, you are isolating the middle and PUSHING THEM AWAY from the ideals of conservative (and libertarian) thought that I strongly believe are the key to our success as a nation.
Meh...Let them do it. This is who they are. You need to come to terms with the fact that this is who you share your politics with. These folks are representative of conservative America or so they claim.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7855 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:00 pm to
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Great post (especially before your cave-edit to appease the deplorable folks you are lecturing.)

My god, dude... I was clarifying the mistake I made in the OP by not being more clear that I have no problem with reasonable criticism of Mrs. Obama. I haven't caved one bit... I AM quite disturbed by many things the former first lady has said.


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Your father in law's behavior is upsetting but hardly surprising...nor is the casual way that you remark about it. It doesn't sound like you informed your father in law that his behavior is unacceptable after all...

You are out-of-line here, I was trying not to turn the OP into a two-page long TL;DR. I am not in any way casual about racist language and I do not associate with it in my life, and I have made attempts to keep my FIL from using it. I am NOT casual about it.


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Meh...Let them do it. This is who they are. You need to come to terms with the fact that this is who you share your politics with. These folks are representative of conservative America or so they claim.

I have a lot of liberal and conservative friends. You are wrong to say that such racism is representative of conservative America. You are trying to latch that liberal drivel onto this thread, and it is bullshite.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263331 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:02 pm to
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These folks are representative of conservative America or so they claim.


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