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Tesla says fatal crash on Hwy 101 in Mountain View, CA involved Autopilot

Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:33 am
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3560 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:33 am
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Tesla has provided another update to last week's fatal crash. As it turns out, Tesla said the driver had Autopilot on with the adaptive cruise control follow-distance set to minimum. However, it seems the driver ignored the vehicle's warnings to take back control.

"The driver had received several visual and one audible hands-on warning earlier in the drive and the driver’s hands were not detected on the wheel for six seconds prior to the collision," Tesla wrote in a blog post. "The driver had about five seconds and 150 meters of unobstructed view of the concrete divider with the crushed crash attenuator, but the vehicle logs show that no action was taken."

Watch the video. It's obvious the car got confused by the line in the pavement and instead of following the white shoulder line it drove the car directly into the barrier.

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This post was edited on 3/31/18 at 9:38 am
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23275 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:36 am to
i can't believe people are willing to be the beta test on a robot car. i think we'll eventually get there but it is way fricking early to hand over control to a robot at 90 mph on the fricking freeway.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90110 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:39 am to
Elon Musk is spread too thin. He's sending a Tesla into orbit while his Model 3 is woefully behind schedule. He's got too many irons in the fire.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:42 am to
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i can't believe people are willing to be the beta test on a robot car.


I can't believe they trust it enough to not pay more attention and be ready to take control back in an instant. I would be on pins and needles.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:43 am to
I will never feel comfortable in an automated car on imperfect roads with imperfect drivers. Programmers simply cannot capture every single abnormality the average driver is likely to face on roads that are subject to shoddy upkeep and people subject to stupidity.

I know this because I am a programmer.
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:44 am to
What the hell.

How many people will car manufactures kill?
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70589 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:45 am to
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Elon Musk is spread too thin. He's sending a Tesla into orbit while his Model 3 is woefully behind schedule. He's got too many irons in the fire.
So, metaphorically-speaking, he should become larger to support adequate irons’ heating?

He’s impatient and I can’t blame him for wanting to push hard.

Break some eggs to make omelets kind of thing.

Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
11332 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:45 am to
Apparently the driver set the autopilot to "Asian mode" shortly before impact
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70589 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:46 am to
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How many people will car manufactures kill?
About what we lost in Vietnam in total over he next couple of years...
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:47 am to
quote:

i can't believe people are willing to be the beta test on a robot car. i think we'll eventually get there but it is way fricking early to hand over control to a robot at 90 mph on the fricking freeway
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:51 am to
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Break some eggs to make omelets kind of thing


If my wife was one of those "eggs" that broke I'd clearly let Elon musk know that his omelette just cost him right around $50 million
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
79619 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:57 am to
Doesn't matter what tech you put in the cars. You can't make people less stupid.
This post was edited on 3/31/18 at 9:58 am
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:58 am to
People are so stupid.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
79619 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:59 am to
quote:


How many people will car manufactures kill?


Seriously? YOU are responsible for what your car does when you are behind the wheel. No one else.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
164726 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:01 am to
My engineers warned Musk about these types of hangups, but i guess said warnings fell on deaf ears. Typical Penn smart-aleck.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41358 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:04 am to
We just bought a car that offered driverless features, I said no thanks to all of them but the standard ones. Even those are obtrusive.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77265 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:05 am to
S, I ditched my Penn educated “engineers” for a more polished and less plebeian type of engineering by going with Princeton and MIT grads exclusively.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10328 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:18 am to
We aren’t ready for this autopilot technology. Especially with the increased use of social media whilst driving.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74626 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:27 am to
Musk will get credited with getting the ball rolling, but with the Solar City legal issues and Model 3 production failures it will be interesting to see how the next round of funding goes. Funding needed just to pay off the billion dollars in debt coming due.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
28497 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:40 am to
Seems to me both the driver and Tesla shoulder the blame here.

First, the driver ignored warnings to take back control of the vehicle.

Second, Tesla should update the control program to have the car come to a stop and turn on flashers if the driver ignores the warning more than five seconds.

Better to have some yahoos honking their horns and flipping you off than to have the ME try to identify what's human and what's not out of the pile of ashes and debris the scrape up off the highway.

No way should auto-pilot run your arse into anything.
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