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re: Who are the best teams to NOT win the NCAAT the past 20 yrs?
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:26 pm to Frac the world
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:26 pm to Frac the world
Think you have to consider 2014-15 Wisconsin.
The Badgers went 36-4 (16-2) with NCAAT wins over Oregon, UNC, Arizona, and Kentucky. Had they finished off Duke, you could argue it as the greatest Tournament run of all-time with wins over CBB's best programs, not including a good Oregon team. In addition to that, they had highest AdjO in the KenPom area and it hasn't been, particularly, close.
The Badgers went 36-4 (16-2) with NCAAT wins over Oregon, UNC, Arizona, and Kentucky. Had they finished off Duke, you could argue it as the greatest Tournament run of all-time with wins over CBB's best programs, not including a good Oregon team. In addition to that, they had highest AdjO in the KenPom area and it hasn't been, particularly, close.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 2:39 pm
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Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:42 pm to hoopsgalore
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Think you have to consider 2014-15 Wisconsin. The Badgers went 36-4 (16-2) with NCAAT wins over Oregon, UNC, Arizona, and Kentucky. Had they finished off Duke, you could argue it as the greatest Tournament run of all-time with wins over CBB's best programs, not including a good Oregon team. In addition to that, they had highest AdjO in the KenPom area and it hasn't been, particularly, close.
a lot of shady calls in that Championship game too
Posted on 3/23/18 at 4:16 pm to hoopsgalore
If Wisconsin had beaten Duke they would've beaten the highest possible opposing seed in every round. That would've included wins over an elite Zona team on the West Coast on one less day of rest AND that superhuman Kentucky squad. UK and Zona finished 3 and 4 in the polls, so Wisconsin would've taken out 2-3-4 (had Grayson f'in Allen not shown up).
It would have assuredly been the toughest path a 1-seed had ever taken to win the title. Add that to the KenPom stat rankings and the overall record/RPI and yeah, you can certainly make a case for UW.
It would have assuredly been the toughest path a 1-seed had ever taken to win the title. Add that to the KenPom stat rankings and the overall record/RPI and yeah, you can certainly make a case for UW.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 3/23/18 at 4:19 pm to hoopsgalore
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Think you have to consider 2014-15 Wisconsin.
Don't care about the downvotes on my first post, but I would assume this means people disagree. Play with me on this one.
- The 36-4 record wasn't a flash in the pan. They were returning everyone from a team coming off 30 wins and a Final Four appearance.
- They beat three of the better CBB programs, one of which was being talked about as the "greatest team" of all-time, in back-to-back-to-back NCAAT games.
- Their AdjO (129.0) is the best in the KenPom era, which spans 17 years. It took until this year's Villanova for a team to have an AdjO that eclipsed 126.1.
- Only this year's Villanova had a higher points/possession in the last 20 years.
If we're answering best teams to not win a Championship in the last 20 years, WIsconsin has a pretty good claim to be part of that group. That's difficult to debate.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 5:12 pm
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