re: Pels vs Pistons (our recycled PGs)

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I wonder what raw materials he has that might indicate he can take a big step up

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I don't think he needs to take a big step up. Ideally you'd like him to be a 25 MPG fringe starter material like Faried, but with the bigs the Pels have, if he's just a Richaun Holmes 15 MPG energy big that's good enough.

His midrange jumper looks decent and he's a 75% FT shooter. In an admittedly small sample size against mostly backups he looks like a very good rebounder. Career per 36 rebound rate of 12.8 and a Reb% of 19.2. There's definitely something useful buried under the spazz.

His biggest problem is he still doesn't seem to know the system. He looks awkward because he's the only idiot running to the basket with his hand up on every play He'll eventually learn the system and stop looking like some playground joker.