re: Accepting Mediocrity is the first step to irrelevance

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No, no one will accept 8-4 seasons. It is why CLM got fired. Again, this is a similarity between both sides, not a difference.

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Les didn’t go 8-4 in 2015. He went 9-3 without a gimme win vs McNeese.

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No one is OK with going 8-4, so your point here is moot. Also, you have no clue how good Coach O can be because he's only been the coach for 1 year. You can't judge how good someone will be at their job with one year of experience in any profession. Saban after 1 year at LSU was mediocre. Saban at Bama after 1 year was worse than mediocre. Point being, get a legitimate sample before forming an all encompassing opinion. This is the difference between the two groups on TD.

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He was a HC before. That is relevant.

Also Saban took a 4-8 LSU team and went 8-4. His first season was pretty fricking good.

The point is that we’re not fair weather fans.

I am Going to be all LSUntillmindie, so it would be nice if we were good, and didn’t waste time trying to resurrect Os stillborn HC career.