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re: Which Scene Is Most Cringeworthy?

Posted on 1/22/18 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 2:25 pm to
Read the LJ thread or watch one of the dozens of reviews on youtube. Or read some of the thousands of reviews on rotten tomatoes etc. Or just listen to the MH quotes on how he disagreed with every character choice RE how Luke behaved.

It destroys the major plotlines from TFA. It has a protagonist without adequate growth or change. It has none of the central morality of the OT. The theme from that was in major part an underlying belief in improving character and ability through effort and mentorship. It has numerous just weird things that contradict prior star wars ranging from the characters to the force to the whole utility of warps versus death stars to the question of why luke would leave a map to be found when RJ believes he does not want to be found.

It feels rushed although it is too long. It has seemingly useless plot lines to involve weird political mentions (animal release scene for example). It robs Luke of meaningful exposition to show his reaction to losing Han and asks the viewer to believe the boy who wouldn't give up on Vader would give up on the son of his twin sister and best friend.

It destroys Snope as the antagonist of interest when he would have an interesting and obvious foil for Rey in the last movie. It doesn't understand or like any major character from the OT other than perhaps Leia - not Luke, not Yoda, not even Ackbar. The whole thing is a giant frick you to the people who loved the OT.

In essence, although TLJ is a beautiful film with great sound and music it has little value as a standalone component of a new trilogy and makes the earlier star wars films worse.
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