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Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:18 pm to
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near complete control/autonomy


What is one of the complaints about Demps? Lack of oversight and accountability. Now there do appear to be certain limitations like the Pels appear to have taken one for the team and kept an Ochsner doctor, and Duane Brooks must know where all of Payton's Vicodin is buried, but outside of "forced" organizational synergy, I really don't think an incoming GM would feel a lack of control.

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spending for infrastructure will meet expectations


They built what immediately became one of the better practice facilities in the league. People act like Benson is cheap when he isn't. He may not throw money at problems like Cuban, but he certainly isn't cheap like Shinn was. There is enough money in the system with the new league economics that a good GM should have enough to work with.

How much do y'all think a top GM costs? I honestly don't know if I've ever seen a GM salary figure outside of the Coach/GMs. If a guy like Thibs gets $10 per year I would imagine the top GMs are more in the $5ish range. They were paying Gentry + Demps together at least $5 before the new TV money started rolling in. So I don't think it's crazy for the team to pay $10ish for the next GM/HC combo with all of this new money.
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 2:21 pm
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:32 pm to
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What is one of the complaints about Demps? Lack of oversight and accountability


agreed. i dont think ownership has a problem turning the keys over to whoever the GM is.

i do think the point is a little finer than that though- Hinkie was given the full blessing of ownership to lose like no one has ever lost before for 3 years before the external pressure became too much. if there is still a "win/be good now" mandate, that's not exactly autonomy.

isnt one of the alleged problems with JVG a couple years ago his desire to remake the roster almost entirely after the playoff run?

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They built what immediately became one of the better practice facilities in the league. People act like Benson is cheap when he isn'


havent called him cheap with the Pels in any of these discussions. there is more to it than "he has a high payroll this season" and "they built a nice training facility" yes it is nice that they are doing those things and it is commendable. that doesn't mean they invest properly in medical staff or coaching or scouting or analytics or etc etc etc. it doesnt mean they run a first class organization that will intrigue guys with great pedigree/prospects

it's not a be all, end all thing. obviously anecdotal, but how many guys leave the Hornets/Pels and say complimentary things about the organization v how many say less flattering things?

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So I don't think it's crazy for the team to pay $10ish for the next GM/HC combo with all of this new money.



sure. we'll see what happens if they make a move. we'll see the types of candidates they attract/interview.
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 2:34 pm
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