re: So when do we actually start giving O some credit?

Didn't want him to get the job!

Wasn't happy when he did!

But he did.

Was seriously pissed when we were 3-2 but understood that we were terribly limited limited by lack of numbers on both OL & DL. But after Troy loss it could have become a disaster that we might have never recovered.

Give him all the credit. He did whatever it took to pull things together to win 7 games. Yes, a lot of bad teams or situations but we didn't stub out toe on any of those and we played fairly well against Bama.

Give him credit. But watching cautiously about development of both QBs, recruiting this year and how youngsters that have to step in next year develop to help us compete in 2018. By end of 2018 season I will have seen enough body of work to decide (I think) whether Ed O is the real deal as a HC or whether we need to start looking again.