re: So when do we actually start giving O some credit?

Notice they don’t respond to honest questions either. And that Troy team they love to harpe on is 10-2 with a top 10 defense nationally, not nearly as bad as the last Tulane team we lost to Miami of Ohio, Colorado State it UAB. But the rantards will tell you it the worst loss in the history of college football in order to push their phony futile agenda. Unless he does something to warrant actual adults questioning his ability he’s not going anywhere. His win pct since he took over is 75% Miles last 29 games at LSU his was 65% Ogeron has improved the program like it or not.