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The GOP Belongs to Trump...best article a conservative can read.. For you NeverTrumpers
Posted on 10/28/17 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 10/28/17 at 10:54 pm
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And the hard TRUTH for all you NEVER TRUMPERS
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It's no wonder the establishment is viewed with such derision.
Flake calls Trump "dangerous to our democracy." But the real threat Trump represents is to the GOP establishment's control of the party's agenda and the party's destiny.
U.S. politics have indeed been coarsened, with Trump playing a lead role. Yet, beneath the savagery of the uncivil war in the party lies more than personal insults and personality clashes.
This is a struggle about policy, about the future. And Trump is president because he read the party and the country right, while the Bush-McCain Republican establishment had lost touch with both.
How could the Beltway GOP not see that its defining policies — open borders, amnesty, free trade globalism, compulsive military intervention in foreign lands for ideological ends — were alienating its coalition?
And the hard TRUTH for all you NEVER TRUMPERS
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What had a quarter century of Bushite free trade produced?
About $12 trillion in trade deficits, $4 trillion with China alone, a loss of 55,000 plants and 6 million manufacturing jobs.
We imported goods "Made in China," while exporting our future.
U.S. elites made China great again, to where Beijing is now challenging our strategic position and presence in Asia.
Could Republicans not see the factories shutting down, or not understand why workers' wages had failed to rise for decades?
What did the democracy crusades "to end tyranny in our world" accomplish?
Thousands of U.S. dead, tens of thousands of wounded, trillions of dollars sunk, and a Mideast awash in blood from Afghanistan to Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen, with millions uprooted and homeless. Yet, still, the GOP establishment has not repudiated the mindset that produced this.
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Consider. Bush-Obama "open borders" brought in tens of millions of Third World peoples, legally and illegally, to rising resistance from Americans forced to bear the economic and social costs.
What was the GOP establishment's reply to the opposition to amnesty for illegals and calls for a moratorium on legal immigration, to assimilate the tens of millions already here?
To call them nativists and parade their moral superiority.
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Can the GOP establishment believe that if Trump falls, or they bring him down, they will inherit the estate and be welcomed home like the Prodigal Son? Do they believe their old agenda of open borders, amnesty, free trade globalism and democracy-crusading can become America's agenda again?
Trumpism is not a detour, after which we can all get back on the interstate to the New World Order.
Should Trump fall, and a restored establishment attempt to reimpose the old policies, there will be a truly uncivil war in this country.
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 10:59 pm to MButterfly
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How could the Beltway GOP not see that its defining policies — open borders, amnesty, free trade globalism, compulsive military intervention in foreign lands for ideological ends — were alienating its coalition?
Because they are in a bubble cut off from the rest of us and they failed to see that there was and still is no constituency for all of these things.
Maybe there was in the early 2000s for a couple of those things, but not anymore and certainly not for a very, very long time.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 10:59 pm to MButterfly
Posted on 10/28/17 at 11:00 pm to MButterfly
The Trump train was put in motion by one man but Kek will make sure it stays in motion for eternity.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 11:34 pm to MButterfly
Pretty baffling really.
Along comes candidate Trump who stands for (1) controlling legal and illegal immigration, (2) negotiating trade deals that are in our best economic interest, and (3) talks about ideas to improve the American economy. Truly radical positions, right?
Trump swats aside 16 Republican contenders and is elected.
This causes the Left to advocate for illegal aliens, open borders, and globalist policies.
The GOP is offended by Trump and proceeds to work against him as both a candidate and now as our elected President.
All Trump wants to do is ensure that our policies put America and its citizens first.
That both political parties find Trump's basic political philosophy antithetical to their own world views speaks volumes about the DC uniparty.
Along comes candidate Trump who stands for (1) controlling legal and illegal immigration, (2) negotiating trade deals that are in our best economic interest, and (3) talks about ideas to improve the American economy. Truly radical positions, right?
Trump swats aside 16 Republican contenders and is elected.
This causes the Left to advocate for illegal aliens, open borders, and globalist policies.
The GOP is offended by Trump and proceeds to work against him as both a candidate and now as our elected President.
All Trump wants to do is ensure that our policies put America and its citizens first.
That both political parties find Trump's basic political philosophy antithetical to their own world views speaks volumes about the DC uniparty.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 7:12 am to RantardoMontalbon
Baffling? Hardly.
Like it or not, corporations control the majority of the players in Congress. Flyovers assume, because a corporation is US based, that the corporation has some loyalty to the US. Obviously not the case.
Eisenhower warned the country about the military industrial complex. For the last several decades a fundamental goal of US corporations has been to obtain the legal protections and rights afforded persons under the Constitution. The Supremes finally caved and ruled corporations are "persons" in 2010. Well, here we are.
Corporations may be persons, but they have no loyalty to country, only the bottom line. I was "there" at a very junior level in 86 for the enforcement of the Immigration Reform Act and saw corporations shift to the concept of "offshoring" plants in response. I was there for the negotiation of NAFTA which accomplished that very goal. The result - lower costs, higher profits and the loss of the US industrial base. The payoff -- consumers got cheap stuff.
Why doesn't the US enforce the immigration laws on the books? Seems obvious. If you want to live in the US, then immigrate legally. If you want to encourage immigration, then change the laws. So why not enforce the laws? Because the only group immediately harmed by illegal immigration are workers who pay taxes. Give them enough deductions and even they won't care -- today.
In my mind the immediate problem is neither party, nor their corporate masters, fully understood the impact of the Internet. Forces have been unleashed which may not be containable without bloodshed.
Trump, God love him, is imperfect and certainly a bit of an arse, but I think he understands the issues. He owes no one and seems determined to nudge the country in a better direction.
Like it or not, corporations control the majority of the players in Congress. Flyovers assume, because a corporation is US based, that the corporation has some loyalty to the US. Obviously not the case.
Eisenhower warned the country about the military industrial complex. For the last several decades a fundamental goal of US corporations has been to obtain the legal protections and rights afforded persons under the Constitution. The Supremes finally caved and ruled corporations are "persons" in 2010. Well, here we are.
Corporations may be persons, but they have no loyalty to country, only the bottom line. I was "there" at a very junior level in 86 for the enforcement of the Immigration Reform Act and saw corporations shift to the concept of "offshoring" plants in response. I was there for the negotiation of NAFTA which accomplished that very goal. The result - lower costs, higher profits and the loss of the US industrial base. The payoff -- consumers got cheap stuff.
Why doesn't the US enforce the immigration laws on the books? Seems obvious. If you want to live in the US, then immigrate legally. If you want to encourage immigration, then change the laws. So why not enforce the laws? Because the only group immediately harmed by illegal immigration are workers who pay taxes. Give them enough deductions and even they won't care -- today.
In my mind the immediate problem is neither party, nor their corporate masters, fully understood the impact of the Internet. Forces have been unleashed which may not be containable without bloodshed.
Trump, God love him, is imperfect and certainly a bit of an arse, but I think he understands the issues. He owes no one and seems determined to nudge the country in a better direction.
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 7:14 am
Posted on 10/29/17 at 7:20 am to runningdog
He’s not an arse. He’s a good man. He’s a great president.
God bless President Trump.
God bless President Trump.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 9:09 am to Sentrius
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Because they are in a bubble cut off from the rest of us and they failed to see that there was and still is no constituency for all of these things.
They literally stopped listening to US or they spoke what we wanted to hear our elected officials say and just decided to ignore us.
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