re: If 5 & 7 or worse, O is gone.

We're 4-8 at best, and I'd guess we'll likely go 3-9. Will miss a bowl for the first time in almost 20 years. I would say something is REALLY wrong if O survives it, but we already know something is REALLY wrong. So, I'll say, if O survives it, we are absolutely fricked.

We should see the signs coming. If we continue to tank and Alleva is canned midseason and we find a good replacement AD before the CFB post season is over, that should be the end of Orgeron. If we keep Alleva, we got it up the arse.