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re: Notice how the Neo prog filth narrative is shifting off guns? GEOTUS responds
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:25 pm to Ted2010
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:25 pm to Ted2010
quote:
Define what you mean by progs since it seems to be different from how I was defining it.
Democrats are liberals. People who fight for civil liberties and all rights for all people.
Progressives are a portion of the once proud Democratic Party that will eventually destroy it.
The Blue Dogs really need to take a step back, look at what this is causing harm to their party, and disassociate. It may take a while; but with this progressive movement and it's in your face platform, it will all come crumbling down eventually.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:29 pm to Lsupimp
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I do not think you and Terry want to kill your fellow Americans.
Ted's a good baw. But it's almost like they are scared to cut ties with this violent movement out of fear of losing votes.
Like I said, it may take a while to get back some power; but it's better than being on a highway to hell of destruction driven by the progressive ideologues.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:39 pm to Lsupimp
No, I'm certainly not wanting to kill anyone at all. That's for sure!
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:40 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Democrats are liberals. People who fight for civil liberties and all rights for all people. Progressives are a portion of the once proud Democratic Party that will eventually destroy it. The Blue Dogs really need to take a step back, look at what this is causing harm to their party, and disassociate. It may take a while; but with this progressive movement and it's in your face platform, it will all come crumbling down eventually.
Good post.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:41 pm to Errerrerrwere
quote:Interestingly I think that's a similar basis for Trump's response to Charlottesville, although I think it was more specific to not having a strong enough ideological understanding of Nationalism, so he wasn't sure how to address it so to not criticize the entire ideological movement.
But it's almost like they are scared to cut ties with this violent movement out of fear of losing votes.
This became more clear when Bannon, who was probably his Nationalism ideological guide, was able to succinctly and effectively articulate the differences and provide a scathing criticism of the "ethno-nationalists," the White Nationalists in this case.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:42 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Ted's a good baw
I will be glad when Pelosi & her ilk are gone from Congress. They are just killing my party & stifling Democrats that actually don't tote the California liberal water.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:42 pm to buckeye_vol
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Interestingly I think that's a similar basis for Trump's response to Charlottesville, although I think it was more specific to not having a strong enough ideological understanding of Nationalism, so he wasn't sure how to address it so to not criticize the entire ideological movement.
This became more clear when Bannon, who was probably his Nationalism ideological guide, was able to succinctly and effectively articulate the differences and provide a scathing criticism of the "ethno-nationalists," the White Nationalists in this case.
Both sides lie down with dogs and then only point out the fleas on the other guy.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:45 pm to boosiebadazz
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boosiebadazz
You know what...I bit my tongue when you disrespected my family but let me tell you something....you are a piece of shite.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:46 pm to little billy
What? When did I disrespect your family? Who are you?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:47 pm to boosiebadazz
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Both sides lie down with dogs and then only point out the fleas on the other guy.
Yes, and I agree; but since November only one is promoting violence.
Can you at least come to the table on that?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:50 pm to little billy
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You know what...I bit my tongue when you disrespected my family but let me tell you something....you are a piece of shite.
Does he know you or you family? It seems hard to truly disrespect some family of an anonymous person, unless they person was providing information to make the family more "real."
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:52 pm to Errerrerrwere
Yeah, I can agree the ANTIFA scum have been more violent since Trump was elected. The White Nationalist movement has been more active, but they're more about show of force and intimidation by numbers. I don't think they've promoted violence as a whole. Can certainly see how the Dylan Roofs of the world can feel a call to action, though.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:52 pm to buckeye_vol
Yeah, I'm hoping for a link or something. I literally have no idea who this dude is
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:54 pm to Errerrerrwere
quote:I think we can acknowledge that the losers on the fringe left have been more violent, at least as noticeable group, but I also think we should acknowledge that the groups on either side who are violent and/or hateful, are the fringe minority of that side. They just do things to make the news, while intentionally seeking attention to make it even more obvious.
Yes, and I agree; but since November only one is promoting violence.
Can you at least come to the table on that?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:02 pm to buckeye_vol
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I think we can acknowledge that the losers on the fringe left have been more violent, at least as noticeable group, but I also think we should acknowledge that the groups on either side who are violent and/or hateful, are the fringe minority of that side. They just do things to make the news, while intentionally seeking attention to make it even more obvious.
I'm not going to get into a big long debate with you about this tonight; but you did admit it then used the word "but....blah blah blah the other side" which nullified anything you said previously.
Although, you admitted it; there is no compromise with people like you. We get both far left and far right suck.
But there is really only one side that is committing the violence on a regular basis. It's kind of like being called a racist for so long.
How much more do you think the right can take it? And if someone does finally blow up; you will just spin it right back around on the right.
Poke the sleeping bear and what not...
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:26 pm to Errerrerrwere
Moral Relativism is the playground of The Left . They do it here by equating 500 guys on the Right who have been completely marginalized and disavowed by Republicans to 50,000 guys on the Left who get funded by the Left, have full participation in all the Institutions controlled by The Left , and who get audiences with American Democratic Presidents ( BLM). Their message is also glorified throughout social media, receives favored status in the MSM and is the de facto default setting for CNN, ESPN, the NYT, WAPO, CBS,ABC, NBC, hundreds of movies, television shows etc . There is ZERO equivalence within our culture. Whereas the thugs on The Right are universally repudiated and reviled, those on the Left are celebrated and rewarded.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:34 pm to Errerrerrwere
quote:I didn't say BUT to nullify what I said previously. I just think that in political discussions, people tend to find the examples of the worst on the other side and the generalize it to the entire side, so they can lazily dismiss any argument. The left does it just as frequently to the right, it just isn't as prevalent here, since there are far fewer.
I'm not going to get into a big long debate with you about this tonight; but you did admit it then used the word "but....blah blah blah the other side" which nullified anything you said previously.
quote:People like me?
Although, you admitted it; there is no compromise with people like you.
quote:This is what I mean. I don't think this is necessarily your intention, but when we're talking about "sides" compromising hundreds of millions of people, then defining the despicable acts of thousands as A SIDE, accidentally (or intentionally in many cases) ends up including the hundreds of millions not committing them via guilt by association. It's the same thing that often happens when the actions of a few cops, are generalized to the group as a whole. Then it becomes a pro-LEO and anti-LEO debate, when it should be about addressing the problems of the few LEOs.
But there is really only one side that is committing the violence on a regular basis.
quote:Take what exactly? I can see, and have seen, that they can't take the toxic debate from the left. I can get behind that because it's far more pervasive. But if you're referring to violence, then we're back to that small group of perpetrators, and similarly, small group of victims. So it's not really about the vast majority of anybody, although I think we should still criticize violence nonetheless.
How much more do you think the right can take it?
A major basis for my viewpoint, while anecdotal, is that my experiences have allowed me to have a lot of meaningful interactions and meaningful friendships with people all across the political spectrum. And when I reflect on normal everyday interactions, and the meaningful principles and values that are shown and stated, it's difficult to differentiate the political views of these individuals. For the most part, they go about their lives much the same way trying to fulfill many of the same goals and values. They are nothing like the ridiculous people and examples we see on television.
But when we get into these types of political discussions, we get into the typical in-group and out-group mentality, and use those ridiculous examples we see on TV to define the entire other side, and make it seem like everyone on that side is the ridiculous example and shares nothing in common with "my side."
And believe it or not, while it seems like I'm just supporting that other side, I'm just trying to defend against what I just described, it just happens that the left is the one that is the "other side" here. BUT I defend the "right" when my left-wing friends and acquaintances do the same to the right. After the election, I did it when a person tried to argue that those who voted for Trump were essentially doing it from a bigoted stance. Well my parents and many of my friends voted for Trump, and they didn't vote for him for those reasons at all, so I specifically laid out the rational arguments that were made here incidentally.
So you can say I'm unwilling to compromise, and I do feel strongly about this, so maybe I am. BUT I'm not doing it because I am trying to solely defend the left; I'm doing it because I believe the generalization is wrong and counterproductive.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:34 pm to Ham Malone
That’s a religious slur by the way . The kind Terry loses his shite over- until he does it . Typical intolerant Leftist.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:38 pm to buckeye_vol
I told you I'm not arguing with you tonight. And I didn't read that book you wrote.
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