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re: Regarding AI and Driverless Cars...

Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:12 am to
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:12 am to
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1) Lets say there's a train coming wildly down the track and there's five guys who are standing directly in the train's path, but you can pull a lever and the train will veer away to another set of tracks and on the other set of tracks, there's only one person. Do you pull the lever or not?



Simple decision. You pull the lever. Better to kill one than 5.

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Now, let's say the same scenario is occurring. Except, instead of the lever and separate set of tracks, there's a fat man on a bridge with you. You can push the man off the bridge to stop the train from hitting the five people. Do you push the fat man?



You absolutely push fat man. You only have 2 options. Neither are good but you always take the less risky approach.

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2) Like the last episode of MASH, you and a group of people are hiding out from an enemy who is certain to kill you if they find you. You have a baby who is sick and you know if anybody makes a sound, the enemy will certainly find you and kill you. Do you kill your sick child in order to save the lives of the people around you by smothering the child?


See this is where it gets difficult. I wouldnt want to live without my child. My decision ultimately affects everyone involved. But it would never come to that. We all die because everyone in the bunker knows my child has to die. They would attack and I would defend. We all die because of the ruckus.

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I ask this because they paralleled these two scenarios with driverless cars and AI and let's say you were riding in your car and a wreck was about to happen in which either you or the people you wreck into will die, how is the AI in the driverless car supposed to decide for you who gets to die and who doesn't?
How can the AI determine who will die in a car wreck? I have yet to see any argument made on preventing death that is inevitable. Like the LV shooting. There is no AI in the world could have predicted which person lives and which dies in split seconds. The car will never know and neither will the passengers.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:04 am to
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How can the AI determine who will die in a car wreck? I have yet to see any argument made on preventing death that is inevitable. Like the LV shooting. There is no AI in the world could have predicted which person lives and which dies in split seconds. The car will never know and neither will the passengers.


In fairness, the LV example has far more variables than your average car accident. The physics are car accidents are fairly well understood. While not perfect, especially given some humans are more fragile than others, an algorithm could be written that would allow the car to preserve the most lives based on a statistical model. Even if not perfect it could easily do a better job than most humans in preserving the most life in an accident.

There are two keys here. One, with all autonomous cars the number of accidents, should drop significantly and the severity of the ones that do occur could be often be mitigated but a much quicker thinking computer with much more data available to it than a human. There are long functioning examples of this sort of process in industrial settings all over the world.
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