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re: Vision, philosophy, and planning for a HC

Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:19 pm to
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there's no chance that you can be as intimately familiar with the preparation and details needed to execute that plan as well as someone that uses that plan as their bible


Like Nick Saban hiring Lane Kiffin?

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And one of the reasons Nick Saban hired Kiffin was because he wanted someone who could bring a true pro-style approach to Alabama’s offense while also modernizing it, as Saban had seen first hand how quickly offensive football was changing. Kiffin has largely succeeded on both fronts.


Or Joe Gibbs in the 80's and 90's when he won three Superbowls?

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The hallmark of Joe Gibbs’s Washington teams of the 1980s and 1990s was the Counter Trey or Counter Gap play, which featured the backside guard and backside tackle (two members of the Hogs) pulling to lead the way for John Riggins and Washington’s other powerful backs. The play became synonymous with Gibbs and Washington, and many credit his success with it as the reason why it is so ubiquitous in football today.

But Gibbs didn’t think of the play on his own. “We stole it,” Gibbs told Sports Illustrated. “We saw some film on Nebraska, and Tom Osborne was doing some really innovative things with his line up front. We were watching it and thought, God, that’s good stuff. So we stole it.”


Yeah but, "there's no chance that you can be as intimately familiar with the preparation and details needed to execute that plan as well as someone that uses that plan as their bible."

Ha Ha Ha !!!

Yeah, never change. Successful coaches always stick to their "bible".

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You could literally give Orgeron Dabo's, Urban Meyer's, Saban's playbook and we'd still have the same damn results that we have right now.


Yeah sure man, sure. Would he get their players also. If he did it would be the same as their teams or maybe even better if he got to keep the assistants he has.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:24 pm to
Gibbs, Saban.

Go ahead, keep trying to make all of these comparison between Orgeron and proven successful coaches. Keep thinking that's helping you make your point.

All of those coaches had philosophies and incorporated other elements to adapt to the times. They didn't make sweeping changes. Did you even watch Bama last year? They were still a run heavy team, like always. Saban's prints were all over that offense.
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:31 pm to
He can't manage his coordinators because he does not their systems because he's just not that smart. That's the issue. I'm an assistant principal of a school and I'm not bad at it. But when I start slipping my boss (principal) rides my arse and keeps me in check. But if she let me sit on my arse and only show up to work when I felt like it her school would fall apart, but she is good principal and keeps me a good assistant principal. O basically told Canada "Hey, here's $1.8mil/year, now go run a good offense. I hired you because you're smarter than me." Now, here we are almost midway through the season and nobody knows the offense?!?! Wtf?!?!
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