re: The Fundamental Flaw in every last God/No God thread ever on this board

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God is by definition an extraterrestrial being from outside this universe.

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Better not tell our resident loch ness monster expert, or he'll start seeing things in the clouds again.

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Isnt that what God(if it exist)is essentially anyway. God is by definition an extraterrestrial being from outside this universe.

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Yep.

But, my post was distinguishing between "all powerful being with no limits" and "being capable of creating universe that itself might be a creation or itself might have limits".

Even that is only a narrow view through a straw. My overarching point is that we unnecessarily constrict the argument to EITHER "ALL POWERFUL GOD that is directly involved with us today or, "no creative thing possible, period".

This constriction is a result of us incorrectly assume that OUR view of scale is the real view of scale. But, off the top of my head describable scenarios include

1. God of the Bible/Islam/Judaism - All powerful, involved today

2. Being much like #1 that does this shite all the time, has created innumerable universes of which we are but one and he doesn't give a rat's frick about us.

3. Being much like #1 who views us basically as a fun science experiment and nothing more.

4. Being created by being similar to #1 that has advanced enough to know how to cause universes to form and ours was one.

5. Being like #4 that tinkers with the universe it created.

6. Being created by #4 being that ITSELF has no advanced to knowing how to create universes.

I could probably go on for 100 examples because the above ONLY includes a start point of "all powerful being".

Some respond to this by saying, "well, those all still require(in their view) the all powerful being.

To which I say, well, OK. But, I mean, that's not at all what we're talking about when we are talking about a God one might want to worship.