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re: The Fundamental Flaw in every last God/No God thread ever on this board
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:19 pm to ChewyDante
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:19 pm to ChewyDante
Agnosticism is the only evidence-based stance.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:56 pm to rbWarEagle
quote:Without faith it is impossible to please me or believe in me, so your evidence is stupid
Agnosticism is the only evidence-based stance.
--God Almighty
Posted on 9/21/17 at 5:25 pm to rbWarEagle
quote:I alluded to this in another thread but I believe that agnosticism is not actually a third category along side atheists and theists.
Agnosticism is the only evidence-based stance.
All theists and atheists might say they "know" there is a God or they "know" there is no God, but in reality, no one really "knows". Theists believe there is a God and atheists believe there is no God. Since only omniscience and/or omnipresence are suitable characteristics for any human to know for sure outside of direct, supernatural revelation from said God, atheism and theism both fall victim to the requirement of faith and belief.
Given that no one can possibly "know" one way or the other, both sides have to have faith regarding the existence of God (or god/gods). Agnosticism, therefore, exists to varying degrees within both groups, making a third distinction irrelevant. It's my opinion, therefore, that self-professed agnostics either are atheists that would possibly be open to become theists if they believed knowledge about God could be obtained, or they are theists who believe that the object of their theism cannot be known or understood for certain (if at all).
My question to you, rbWarEagle, is this: do you, personally, believe that a deity of some sort exists?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 6:58 pm to rbWarEagle
quote:to someone who is ignorant. there's plenty of evidence for God. people who say there isn't are usually making a category mistake of some kind
Agnosticism is the only evidence-based stance
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:45 pm to rbWarEagle
quote:
Agnosticism
quote:
only evidence-based stance.
Prove it!
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:25 am to rbWarEagle
quote:
Agnosticism is the only evidence-based stance.
I should clarify that I'm an agnostic and I was posting that with absolute tongue in cheek as that is what I was told by foomanchoo in another thread.
I'm curious to know if the upvotes are from people who actually agree with that statement or who realize I was joking.
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