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re: Why does the healthcare debate essentially revolve around like 4% of Americans?

Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:56 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124591 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:56 am to
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So in this case 1% means 25%.
No.

But it brings up a salient point. The Kaiser Family Foundation, on whose information you've based your claim, is an oft quoted source on these matters. Unfortunately, it is about as trustworthy a source as the National Enquirer. Which is to say it is occasionally right, and often FOS.

Here are the numbers by insurance category (From Kaiser BTW):
Employer 49%
Medicaid 19%
Medicare 14%
Other Public 2%
Uninsured 9%
Non-Group (including ACA Exchanges) 7%

So, as the 25% of people with preconditions would be applied to some of the 7% in non-group insurance, and a fraction of the Medicaid pool, 4% actually seems a quite generous estimation.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 5:39 am to
The Kaiser Family Foundation are the biggest pro-obamacare hacks there are, except maybe aarp because they make money off it.

Covering pre-existing conditions is not "insurance", it is welfare.

Insurance mitigates risk. It does not pay for something you already have.
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 6:07 am to
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Here are the numbers by insurance category (From Kaiser BTW):
Employer 49%
Medicaid 19%
Medicare 14%
Other Public 2%
Uninsured 9%
Non-Group (including ACA Exchanges) 7%


So lets say that 25% of the entire population has something that can be classified as a precondition. You're assuming that the only people hat would be affected would be the people in the NOn Group 7%. But that's not he case. If Graham-Cassidy passes, States will be able to define who they want to cover, as everything is going to be changed from Medicaid/Medicare to State Block Grants. So potentially, this number could be 51% and only the 49% already who have employer insurance would be unaffected. And god forbid if you lose your job or decide you want to change your career.
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