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I just don't see them saving much when you factor in things like;

1. Electricity bills
2. Battery replacement and disposal
3. Lower productivity levels due to electric trucks being unable to haul as much freight as current trucks.

1. Electricity bills will be a fraction of diesel bills

2. Most of the material in batteries is recyclable. I'm not sure the economics are there yet, but it will be eventually, and probably soon. We need batteries for a lot more than just transportation

3. I need to answer this one in parts

3a. You have no clue how much freight they will haul. It is very possible they will haul more. Musk thinks they will.

3b. It's impossible for a human to come anywhere near the productivity levels of robots. That's why we build them. That's why they replace humans in monotonous jobs like driving trucks. They don't eat, sleep, shite, etc.

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Posted by mikelbr

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Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:26 am to Korkstand

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3b. It's impossible for a human to come anywhere near the productivity levels of robots. That's why we build them. That's why they replace humans in monotonous jobs like driving trucks. They don't eat, sleep, shite, etc.

Yep. People were skeptical at a plant I worked at when these were brought it. Took a LOT of effort and $$ but... when they got fully functional and online, the reality sunk in. I remember the manager saying "and these things don't stop to check their Iphone every 3 minutes."

24/7 and almost creepy watching these things in action, especially how they'll return to charging bay and swap batteries then get back to work.

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Posted by Darth_Vader

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Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:31 am to Korkstand

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Electricity bills will be a fraction of diesel bills

Please explain.

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2. Most of the material in batteries is recyclable. I'm not sure the economics are there yet, but it will be eventually, and probably soon. We need batteries for a lot more than just transportation

Again, back up your claim.

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3a. You have no clue how much freight they will haul. It is very possible they will haul more. Musk thinks they will.

You're totally missing the point. It's not just a matter of how much weight an electric truck can pull, it's a matter of how much weight the truck itself has. Roads have weight limits, the heavier a truck weighs means the less freight it can haul due to weight restrictions on the roads. Overweight trucks tear up roads. Batteries are heavy so logic says an electric truck will have to weigh more than a diesel powered truck. This means an electric truck will not be able to haul as much freight as a diesel powered truck.

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