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re: 10 things we learned from Saints' preseason finale vs. Ravens
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:33 am to BilJ
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:33 am to BilJ
Muhammed makes it over Gwacham and maybe even Tapp. Tapp can play inside, as well, which helps his case. I still feel Muhammed is on the 53.
Loewen and Hendrickson have also played inside. Hell, I don't recall Loewen plaing DE at all (he is listed as a DE on the roster). He has a better shot making it at DT.
Loewen and Hendrickson have also played inside. Hell, I don't recall Loewen plaing DE at all (he is listed as a DE on the roster). He has a better shot making it at DT.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 10:34 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:38 am to GMoney2600
You have to keep Muhammad. No way he gets cut. Cut a backup vet that may be still on the wire in a few weeks, not a cheap, drafted rookie that has shown real promise.
Bighill its just a numbers game. I cut him at the last second when 1000s of guys will all get cut at the same time and hope he squeezes through to the PS. If not...there are always Adam Bighills available all of the time.
Bighill its just a numbers game. I cut him at the last second when 1000s of guys will all get cut at the same time and hope he squeezes through to the PS. If not...there are always Adam Bighills available all of the time.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:55 am to Sparkplug#1
quote:
We only need to carry one QB, so that should free up a couple of spots. If something happens to Brees we can find someone on the street as good as what we have or better.
This backup position is now fricked. I am sure CSP is looking.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:57 am to GMoney2600
Loewen and Muhammad will make the team.
Bighill may get caught up in the numbers game. However, if SA makes the team instead of Bighill that would be a tragedy.
Bighill may get caught up in the numbers game. However, if SA makes the team instead of Bighill that would be a tragedy.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:03 am to Solo
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Bighill may get caught up in the numbers game.
This is what I don't get. Dude has done everything he possibly could to make the roster. Is it because of poteintial because so far he has literally outplayed every LB on the field not named Klein this preseason.
That said you know what you have in Robertson and Anzalone has shown he can be good. But based on what I've seen so far I would take Bighill over everyone else besides those three. But they don't pay me to be a coach so we'll see.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:03 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
Bighill its just a numbers game.
I'd be very surprised if he gets cut. Top 5 guys have been locks for a couple of weeks now(He's the #6 LB imo). Mauti, Braman, & Anthony are in contention for the #7 spot imo.
You can't really cut a guy that plays special teams, & plays the LB position better than all of the other guys that he's competing against.
And lastly, you're right about Muhammad...no way he gets cut. That would be a massive oaf.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 11:07 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:08 am to GMoney2600
Every draft pick should make the team, and that is incredible
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:10 am to mindbreaker
Te'o has played pretty damn good, & you have to keep Stupar b/c he's proven that he can have very good spot starts at OLB.
That being said...we're both on the same page. Bighill has earned his spot.
That being said...we're both on the same page. Bighill has earned his spot.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 11:16 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:18 am to CocoLoco
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Every draft pick should make the team, and that is incredible
It really is. Even the very best drafts usually have at least 1 huge bust out of 7 picks in the 1st year. So far so good. I thought we would have a good draft, but I didn't see this coming.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:32 am to Nissanmaxima
How many times has Bighill has his nose crushed?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:48 am to GMoney2600
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Al-Quadin Muhammad is going to be tough to cut
My goodness if we cut this guy......
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:50 am to mindbreaker
I think Bighill has a good shot to make it, but you do have to keep in mind he went against 2nd and 3rd stringers.
But like Muhammad, he shone bright enough that he should still make it.
I don't think Mauti is a safe bet to make it. I think Bighill has shown more on defense and special teams to take his spot.
Also Payton said some things about Anthony the makes me think he's a lock (basically he was hurt and didn't get a chance, and with the first round investment they'll ride it out).
But like Muhammad, he shone bright enough that he should still make it.
I don't think Mauti is a safe bet to make it. I think Bighill has shown more on defense and special teams to take his spot.
Also Payton said some things about Anthony the makes me think he's a lock (basically he was hurt and didn't get a chance, and with the first round investment they'll ride it out).
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:59 am to bonethug0108
I think you guys are wrong on Bighill being on the roster versus the Vikings. He may make it through the initial cuts but get cut during the week as the Saints take players that were cut from other rosters.
The numbers just don't work out for him to make it. You'd have to do something like only keep 3 RBs.
We are going to be scouring the waiver wire for another tackle to keep until Armstead comes back and possibly even another interior OL. I also think we keep way more DBs than most teams because of Allen's penchant for the 3 Safety look.
The numbers just don't work out for him to make it. You'd have to do something like only keep 3 RBs.
We are going to be scouring the waiver wire for another tackle to keep until Armstead comes back and possibly even another interior OL. I also think we keep way more DBs than most teams because of Allen's penchant for the 3 Safety look.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:02 pm to Fun Bunch
We usually keep 7 LBs (sometimes 6 or 8, but usually 7).
We have:
Klein
Robertson
Te'o
Anzalone
Stupar
Who are locks. Anthony, based on Payton's comments, seems like a safe bet.
That leaves one more spot, with only Mauti, Bighill, and Braman to choose from. Braman disappeared last night after a good week last week. Mauti disappeared the who preseason. Bighill has been showing up every week.
I think Bighill is easily our 7th over Mauti and Braman.
And I don't think we'll pull a LB from outside the team. Maybe a spot on the Oline or WR, but I doubt a clearly better LB will be cut (and a slightly better LB would still have to learn the playbook and not be worth the time he's behind).
We have:
Klein
Robertson
Te'o
Anzalone
Stupar
Who are locks. Anthony, based on Payton's comments, seems like a safe bet.
That leaves one more spot, with only Mauti, Bighill, and Braman to choose from. Braman disappeared last night after a good week last week. Mauti disappeared the who preseason. Bighill has been showing up every week.
I think Bighill is easily our 7th over Mauti and Braman.
And I don't think we'll pull a LB from outside the team. Maybe a spot on the Oline or WR, but I doubt a clearly better LB will be cut (and a slightly better LB would still have to learn the playbook and not be worth the time he's behind).
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:06 pm to bonethug0108
Letting Bighill go would be a mistake IMO
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:06 pm to bonethug0108
Wil Lutz was pretty close on that last 59 yard attempt. Was really hoping he would sneak that one through.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:14 pm to The Cool No 9
Still great to see the distance though, and it wasn't wide right. A few feet off from 59 is pretty damn good.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:59 pm to bonethug0108
Just to rerespond to Fun's post a bit, the "norm" for what we keep would be:
2-3 QBs (2 this year imo)
4-5 HBs (Cadet may sneak on as the 5th; Victor and/or Edmunds to the PS)
1 FB
5-6 WRs (didn't see a 6th so unless we get someone from the outside 5 it is)
3-4 TEs (unless from another team, only 3 this year)
7-9 Oline (usually 4 interior and 4 tackles)
4-5 DEs (could be 6 as we have a lot of swing DEs/DTs this year)
3-4 DTs
6-8 LBs (I see at least 7 this year)
5-6 CBs (don't think we keep a 6th over other spots this year)
4-6 Ss (5 seems to be it this year)
1 each of the specialists.
2-3 QBs (2 this year imo)
4-5 HBs (Cadet may sneak on as the 5th; Victor and/or Edmunds to the PS)
1 FB
5-6 WRs (didn't see a 6th so unless we get someone from the outside 5 it is)
3-4 TEs (unless from another team, only 3 this year)
7-9 Oline (usually 4 interior and 4 tackles)
4-5 DEs (could be 6 as we have a lot of swing DEs/DTs this year)
3-4 DTs
6-8 LBs (I see at least 7 this year)
5-6 CBs (don't think we keep a 6th over other spots this year)
4-6 Ss (5 seems to be it this year)
1 each of the specialists.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 1:07 pm to bonethug0108
I see it as:
2
4
1
5
3
9
5
4
6
6
5
3
That's 53. With Armstead's injury and him not going PUP I don't see us taking less than 9 OL.
2
4
1
5
3
9
5
4
6
6
5
3
That's 53. With Armstead's injury and him not going PUP I don't see us taking less than 9 OL.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 1:21 pm to Fun Bunch
Yeah the Armstead thing is something to consider, but as long as the rest stay healthy I think 7 is deep enough to get us through the first few games. Kelemete can back up the inside and LT, Peat can play LT or LG, and Ram can play either tackle. Then we'll keep another guy like Harris or Barnes as an emergency tackle.
That's 8 and I don't see the need to keep a 5th tackle with both Peat and Kelemete being able to swing out.
Also I'm curious as to who your 6 CBs are. Breaux wouldn't count as he's going on IR. Then you have:
Lattimore
Williams
Moore
Crawley
Maulet or Harris but not both
Plus Vaccaro, Bell, and Marcus Willaims can all play nickel. We definitely don't need 6 CBs and I don't see us keeping 2 for special teams.
So in my mind that opens two spots, 1 for a LB and another for a DE or DT (or swing DE/DT).
That's 8 and I don't see the need to keep a 5th tackle with both Peat and Kelemete being able to swing out.
Also I'm curious as to who your 6 CBs are. Breaux wouldn't count as he's going on IR. Then you have:
Lattimore
Williams
Moore
Crawley
Maulet or Harris but not both
Plus Vaccaro, Bell, and Marcus Willaims can all play nickel. We definitely don't need 6 CBs and I don't see us keeping 2 for special teams.
So in my mind that opens two spots, 1 for a LB and another for a DE or DT (or swing DE/DT).
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 1:27 pm
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