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re: Trump expected to lift ban on military gear to local police forces
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:30 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:30 am to NYNolaguy1
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Stingray, Hailstorm, IMSI Catchers...
Examples of those being used by police, let alone against "innocent civilians"
Some of you people are just stupid. Criminally stupid. In other countries, the police are not armed to face riots and such because they don't need to be , those types of events and handled by the military, but by law that can't happen in this country, so instead we let our police have access to the level of equipment that they need to handle such situations.
We have four options.
1. Expect the police to respond to riot situations and other dangerous events with an incorrect payload to handle the situation
2. Expect the police to say "frick it" and not respond to events that they don't have the tools to handle
3. Allow the military to handle what are clearly police situations when they arise.
4. Arm the police so that they can handle situations which require specialized weapons and tactics.
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:55 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Examples of those being used by police, let alone against "innocent civilians"
So you really think they hav never been used against civilians? Who else would police use them against? Animals?
Posted on 8/28/17 at 4:22 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Stingray, Hailstorm, IMSI Catchers...
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Examples of those being used by police, let alone against "innocent civilians"
Well, that was easy. I didn't have to look beyond my own city: LINK
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The Tacoma Police Department apparently has bought — and quietly used for six years — controversial surveillance equipment that can sweep up records of every cellphone call, text message and data transfer up to a half a mile away.
You don’t have to be a criminal to be caught in this law enforcement snare. You just have to be near one and use a cellphone.
Known as Stingray, the device — small enough to be carried in a car — tricks cellphones into thinking it’s a cell tower and draws in their information.
News that the city was using the surveillance equipment surprised City Council members, who approved an update for a device last year, and prosecutors, defense attorneys and even judges, who in court deal with evidence gathered using the surveillance equipment.
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