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re: Historical monuments okay or not

Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by WheelRoute
Washington, D.C.
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:08 pm to
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So did the native Americans. Are you saying native Americans are horrible and don't deserve statues in their honor?



I grew up in South Carolina and don't recall seeing any statues that honored Native Americans who killed people. Is this common where you're from?

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The north didn't fight to end slavery. It fought to keep the south. They only pivioted to ending slavery to cripple the south economically during the war. Lincoln was a horrible racist and didn't care about the plight of the average slave unless it was advantageous to him. In fact, he wanted to ship em back down south.


Irrelevant. The direct result of the war was the elimination of slavery. People's personal feelings or political calculations don't change that. Further, none of this changes that Lee could've sided with the U.S. and fought against the people who declared that slavery was their chosen economic system. And even if I accepted your assertion that the U.S.'s and Lincoln's motives are somehow tarnished because they were less than pure, it still means Lee fought for the dissolution of the United States.

I mean imagine not just deciding to be a traitor, but doing so to preserve slavery. Jesus Christ what a frick up by Lee.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:11 pm to
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imagine not just deciding to be a traitor, but doing so to preserve slavery. Jesus Christ what a frick up by Lee.


He chose......poorly.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35334 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:21 pm to
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grew up in South Carolina and don't recall seeing any statues that honored Native Americans who killed people. Is this common where you're from?


Uhhhhhh.... There are monuments across the states....

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mean imagine not just deciding to be a traitor, but doing so to preserve slavery. Jesus Christ what a frick up by Lee


Slavery was completely normal then. You're letting your current world opinion on slavery cloud your judgement.

What does taking the statues down do to better the African American community?

Is it just a feel good sentiment? If so, why not take down all slave owners statues?
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