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That's sort of like Ole Miss firing Coach O in the third year of his four year contract to rebuild the Ole Miss program and then Coach Houston Nutt coming in and winning immediately with Coach O's players for three years until they graduated and then Coach Houston Nutt couldn't win with his own players after that. Meanwhile, no one could win with Coach Cutcliffe's players, not even Coach Cutcliffe, and Coach Cutcliffe is no slouch as a coach. Yet everybody expects that Coach O could win with those mediocre players. Hmm...

Coach O won 3 games in his final year. Nutt came and won 9 games the next year. That should be alarming to you, not seen as a feather in O's cap.

I look at those results and see that the talent was in place. He was just that bad at weaponizing it. In 07 the team was probably fundamentally a 5 to 6 win team and he won 3 games.

Those results are actually congruent with what we know about Coach O today; he's a hell of a recruiter and can get the talent, but doesn't offer much in terms of helping that talent develop or making strategic decisions that pay off.

I know what you're going to say next, that he's changed and he's hands off now. Words are words and we'll see, but what we know about people is that real change is very difficult, especially when you haven't been tested. Once stressed, most of us revert to type. Anyone can fake it for a little while. When the pressure is on him, he will likely get involved in the strategic direction of this team, just as anyone else in his spot would.

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Posted by Lonnie4LSU

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Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:49 pm to Goldrush25

" O won 3 games in his final year. Nutt came iin and won 9 the next year. That should be a alarming to you. "

A lot of how this played out and went down is Alarming to most of us. I was stunned by the hire. Now, I'm just hoping that JA and the board of supervisors know something that the rest of us don't !

Fall practice starts Soon and then we have the season. We will begin getting answers soon.

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Posted by Space Cowboy

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Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:53 pm to Goldrush25

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Coach O won 3 games in his final year. Nutt came and won 9 games the next year. That should be alarming to you, not seen as a feather in O's cap.

What? You don’t think I know that already, and with very mediocre players that Coach Cutcliffe recruited and couldn’t even win with himself, and then after Coach O was fired, Coach Nutt came in and won 9 games immediately with Coach O’s players and he continued winning for two more years until Coach O’s players graduated, then subsequently it was like somebody flipped a switch and then Coach Houston Nutt couldn’t win with his own players.

Indeed, Hugh Escort Freeze says that had Coach O been given his final year of his four-year contract that he would in all probability still be the head coach at Ole Miss today. And I think Coach Hugh Escort Freeze knows a little more about the situation than a very biased Coach O hater like yourself. As he was there and he also forgot far more about football than you will ever come close to knowing.

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I look at those results and see that the talent was in place.

Yeah, the talent was in place for Coach Houston Nutt thanks to Coach O, but there was no talent in play for Coach O thanks to Coach Cutcliffe. In fact, Coach Cutcliffe couldn’t even win with those mediocre players he had recruited.

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Those results are actually congruent with what we know about Coach O today; he's a hell of a recruiter and can get the talent, but doesn't offer much in terms of helping that talent develop or making strategic decisions that pay off.

Those are not the results. No, they are not, they are the opinion of a Coach O detractor that doesn’t know his arse from a hole in the ground. Moreover, look at all the NFL greats coached O has put in the NFL. What do you mean ignoramus that he can’t develop talent? Give me a freaking break you moonbat. Go take a hike and get lost.

If you are going to post something that stupid, you may as well not post at all. Just blow your severely mentally handicapped brains out instead you lunatic.

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