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re: Marco Rubio on Net Neutrality: ‘This Is a Solution in Search of a Problem’

Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57439 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:53 pm to
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You are advocating extortion.
nah. That's the FCC's specialty.

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You are insufferable.
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No, that's the basis of extortion. But I guess you do have a point.. in a truly free market, extortion is a valid business model.
Pricing power != extortion.

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We have a problem, though, with the next sentence that you neglected to quote... what happens when they demand more money from the receiver?
They can pay for it if it's worth it or not if it isn't worth it to them.

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It just blows my mind that you can acknowledge that I pay my ISP to deliver Netflix to me, then immediately claim that my ISP doesn't get paid for delivering Netflix to me
Just because you paid them something, doesn't mean you paid them for the full value.

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Your analogies always mold to fit your agenda.
Indeed.

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Tommy's grandma also has a toll booth
She doesn't own the road. She's trespassing.
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I don't care who knows what I buy.
Not sure why you brought privacy into it then.

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Why don't you answer the question as asked?
Because it's a distraction from the issue.

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so let's try this: what if your ISP gets bought by Amazon, and Amazon decided to block your access to walmart.com unless Walmart pays up? Walmart would have to pay Amazon whatever arbitrary fee they ask, and then increase their prices to cover these new costs, so that Amazon's prices are more competitive.
This happens all the time. Why do you think "store brands" exist?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28732 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:14 pm to
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Pricing power != extortion.
We aren't talking about pricing power, we're talking about the ability to tax a competitor's goods.
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She doesn't own the road. She's trespassing.
Oh my god. She has a toll booth in front of her house. Just forget it, it's obvious you're going to continue being obtuse.
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Not sure why you brought privacy into it then.
I brought privacy into it because a third party has no right to charge either me or walmart for the things I buy from walmart. Do you still not get it?
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Because it's a distraction from the issue.
NO! That question is the ROOT of the issue! No wonder you're on the wrong side of this, you haven't even begun to comprehend the topic.
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This happens all the time. Why do you think "store brands" exist?
House brands are not even remotely comparable to this.

So I'll ask the question again, since again you haven't answered. How should Walmart respond to an extortion attempt by Amazon the ISP?
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