re: What is a acceptable record for Coach Ed Orgeron this year?

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It's his first full year

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O has been on staff at LSU three seasons and in September he will have been HC or AHC for a year. This is NOT the normal new to the program or the talent situation. O needs to live up to the same high expectations we placed on others.

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I also believe we lost more high quality talent to the NFL than we ever have before

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Are you serious? Did we lose a pro caliber QB, highly drafted RB, and two seriously talented WRs? LSU looses talent every year and every year we sign talent.

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I am more interested in if real change takes place in such places as clock management, special teams and play calling

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Code for, it's ok if we win less as long as I like how it looks.

There is no good reason for this team not to win ten to eleven games. Anything less than that and Alleva's big gamble blew up in his face.