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re: The Democrats Are Close To Breaking

Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:07 am to
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:07 am to
A common postmortem theme last night was that they are losing because they are to centrist. That they should embrace the left-wing and run with it all the way to victory.

This from commentators. Not the guys who shoot up baseball practice or pepper-sprays old women- those guys want to kill us, literally. They are legit crazy.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:21 am to
On economics I'm afraid that they can win on bernienomics

Their problems are

1. P.C. Culture

2. Identity politics

3. Media. People know they're in the tank, know they lie and it rubs them the wrong way. People don't like being lectured, told what to think and do and they really don't like celebrities with GEDs using their platform they have from movies and music to lecture them on politics

4. Somewhat related to PC culture but people are turned off by labeling opponents as bigots and racist fringe lunatics for beliefs that roughly half of Americans hold

5. Immigration- somehow they've adopted the ANYONE who wants to come can stance and people aren't having it and people who try and sound reasonable while being endorsed by or associated with others with the "everyone can come" stance are not trusted by the public on this issue

SirWinston and others are right in that the lesson from last night is the dems lose because people dislike how they play the game.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 9:25 am
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7184 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:00 am to
"A common postmortem theme last night was that they are losing because they are to centrist. That they should embrace the left-wing and run with it all the way to victory."

You see this from both sides. It's comforting but usually delusional. "If we only ran a REAL conservative/liberal, we would have won."
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91257 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:00 am to
quote:

common postmortem theme last night was that they are losing because they are to centrist


What's happened is the crazies have hijacked the party and its leadership causing former centrists still in power to move left to cater to fringe groups.

It's caused a credibility problem where even if they run a centrist voters don't believe they will vote centrist rather than party line.

Dems won't win by moving more left. They need to replace their entire leadership with centrists and the entire party platform to more centrist, particularly with fiscal issues and drop the social division crap.
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