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re: The US Overdose Epidemic - Big Deal Or Meh?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:51 pm to chasmania
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:51 pm to chasmania
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Drug courts would seem better than jail but it is often too late at that point.
The problem is when you start letting drug dealers into these systems as easy plea deals.
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:54 pm to theenemy
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The problem is when you start letting drug dealers into these systems as easy plea deals.
Need to find a way to kill off the economic incentive to sell it.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:58 pm to chasmania
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Need to find a way to kill off the economic incentive to sell it.
Or give people a non-violent way of settling differences
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:58 pm to Sao
It's a big deal to me. Life will never ever be the same for me since I found our son dead one morning.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:00 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Someone in your family or someone close to you will struggle with addiction.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:00 pm to Sao
Meh,
Nature bruh..
Nature bruh..
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:02 pm to chasmania
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Need to find a way to kill off the economic incentive to sell it.
If you're implying the legalization of the more illicit drugs, that's not going to happen as we all know.
We cannot just hope all addicts purge themselves by overdose and the issue cure itself. For a large part, this has and will start with Rx meds for those who have easy access and when that access becomes too hard or too expensive, they move on to the cheap death trap.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:03 pm to chasmania
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The problem is when you start letting drug dealers into these systems as easy plea deals.
Decriminalize simple small possession and use.
Ramp up penalties for production and distribution
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:03 pm to chasmania
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We need to legalize all of the drugs that are abused.
What does this mean? All of this is freely available to anyone who wants it for whatever reason without a prescription?
How's that work exactly? If I want to give Fentanyl laced Heroin a go, I can run down to the Walgreens and get all I want to see what it's like?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:05 pm to Sao
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If you're implying the legalization of the more illicit drugs, that's not going to happen as we all know.
Probably not, but I think the potential impact of readily available legal marijuana and it's effect on hard drug use would be the most important metric when studying the effect of legalized recreational weed.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:06 pm to Sao
good post. those are startling and scary numbers.
sadly we all know nothing will be done about it.
theres an entire TV show on A&E that gets 2 hours on friday and Saturday nights dedicated to busting people with .2 grams of grass, meanwhile hundreds die from opiods.
I suspect big pharma and LEOs think they are doing a great job too with the war on drugs.
sadly we all know nothing will be done about it.
theres an entire TV show on A&E that gets 2 hours on friday and Saturday nights dedicated to busting people with .2 grams of grass, meanwhile hundreds die from opiods.
I suspect big pharma and LEOs think they are doing a great job too with the war on drugs.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:06 pm to NyCaLa
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It's a big deal to me. Life will never ever be the same for me since I found our son dead one morning.
I cannot say I'm sorry enough, sincerely. If it's not too hard, could you share a little about your son he was and how it started? I'm a father of a 15 YO. Knowing how to be vigilant about this may help many here.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:07 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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How's that work exactly? If I want to give Fentanyl laced Heroin a go, I can run down to the Walgreens and get all I want to see what it's like?
Well, part of the legalization argument is that the market will essentially standardize and improve the quality of the product so you don't have things like heroin laced with fentanyl.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:08 pm to upgrayedd
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upgrayedd
I'm 110% for the total and complete legalization of Pot. Really needs to be done for all the reasons we both know it should.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:11 pm to Sao
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I'm 110% for the total and complete legalization of Pot. Really needs to be done for all the reasons we both know it should
Yep, and the conservatives are pretty much 100% of the problem from the PR perspective. Republicans get their payoff to keep it illegal then beat the morality drum for their constituents to garner support.
Then again, Obama had a few years of total control and the D's didn't do shite about it either.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:12 pm to jefforize
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LEOs think they are doing a great job too with the war on drugs.
Lol, no. 9/10 cops will say the war on drugs is a waste of time. They disagree with it because they live with the consequences on a daily basis. Interstate drug interdiction is where you can really hurt dealers/cartels. Seize their trucks, their drugs, and their money and focus less on the lower level users.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:14 pm to Sao
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I'm 110% for the total and complete legalization of Pot. Really needs to be done for all the reasons we both know it should.
Sure, me too. It's when you go beyond that, where it starts to get murky and confusing.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:15 pm to upgrayedd
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Yep, and the conservatives are pretty much 100% of the problem from the PR perspective. Republicans get their payoff to keep it illegal then beat the morality drum for their constituents to garner support.
Then again, Obama had a few years of total control and the D's didn't do shite about it either.
Big Pharma lobbyist have both sides in their pockets.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:15 pm to jefforize
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I suspect big pharma and LEOs think they are doing a great job too with the war on drugs.
I can assure you that if you talk to any DEA, Border Patrol, or Customs agent, they'l pretty much all tell you that not only are we losing the war, but that it's an unwinable one as well. People want to get high and will do whatever it takes to do it.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:24 pm to upgrayedd
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People want to get high and will do whatever it takes to do it.
the amazing thing is that despite all their effort, it is still very easy to get high in America. All we really have done with the war on drugs is drive the price to a point where it is very appealing to smuggle coke and dope into the states.
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