re: Percentage of legit strong guys in your gym

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If the bar starts to slip and goes 2" (will be much less) along your fingers from rolling, you are now having to exert 900 lbs of force to keep it static.

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right, but that is contingent on the bar actually slipping. Which A)is unsafe, and B)prevents you from the overall goal of completing the lift.

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was saying that you still need grip strength in hook grip but not as much comparatively to a DONH because your thumb is taking away from the motion of the bar and not creating a longer moment arm and it is applying an opposing force to the bar.

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I dont disagree with you that DONH is tougher but i think you might be over thinking it a bit. That isnt what I was arguing, however. Maybe I just misread, but it seemed to me like you were alluding that the hook grip is not as beneficial to building strength as the DONH.


I think that the hook grip is equally as beneficial as the DONH in terms of building grip strength. Yes, I think the DONH will fail first. But comparing both with full grips on the bar are near equal from my experiences, both personal and watching others.