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Rand Paul: We should repeal Obamacare like Republicans promised, not just “fix” it
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:49 am
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:49 am
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Sen. Rand Paul, Rare Contributor
The Senate Bill is dead if we subsidize insurance profits. Rands completely against this. Graham has already stated Rands is "irretrievable" so now the Senate is down to 51
Sen. Rand Paul, Rare Contributor
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Just when you think Republicans might move away from the bad ideas that are Obamacare-lite, stories are cropping up about the GOP looking at resurrecting or even expanding Obamacare’s Cadillac tax (In fact, it is already a part of Obamacare that is kept in the Paul Ryan plan).
Why? Primarily because it brings in revenue that the GOP wants to use to keep another Obamacare retread—federal subsidies for health insurance.
Proponents of taxing what they consider “excessive” insurance somehow believe they know better than you do how much insurance you need. Curiously, these same people would likely not be so presumptuous as to assert that consumers are spending too much on iPads, but when it comes to healthcare, all respect for consumer choice or free markets seems to evaporate.
I remember in the good old days when Republicans were not in favor of new taxes or new subsidies or dictates on how much insurance a person should buy. But that was a long time ago when the Tea Party stoked the nation’s consciousness, and the GOP rose to capture all three branches of government.
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How much Obamacare does the House bill keep? Well, if you add up the subsidies of Obamacare over a six-year period (2020-2026), you spend $624 billion. If you add up the Republican plan’s subsidies over the same period, you spend $588 billion. So, the GOP plan keeps over ninety percent of the Obamacare subsidies.
No wonder many conservatives are disappointed.
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That’s exactly what association buying plans do. We need to immediately legalize nationwide buying groups to allow people to pool together to get cheaper insurance and better terms. Buying groups would make the consumer king again and put the big insurance companies on notice that the taxpayer will no longer be their patsy.
We should immediately dispel any idea of subsidizing the purchase of insurance. Not one penny of taxpayer dollars should go to insurance companies. These same companies earn $15 billion a year in profit. Why, in heaven’s name, would we subsidize
I’ve spoken to President Trump about legalizing nationwide buying groups. Our legal counsel believes that current law allows the Secretary of Labor to do this without new laws.
So, instead of letting the unelected swamp at CBO skewer any legislation to alter Obamacare, President Trump could simply, on his own, legalize buying groups that have the potential to offer inexpensive insurance to the 20 million individuals that Obamacare failed to insure.
I imagine President Trump surrounded by already existing associations, such as the Chamber, the National Federation of Independent Business, and the American Farm Bureau, announcing that he is legalizing nationwide buying groups—now that’s a concept ALL Republicans could rally around.
The Senate Bill is dead if we subsidize insurance profits. Rands completely against this. Graham has already stated Rands is "irretrievable" so now the Senate is down to 51
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:50 am to Rakim
Damnit right! Repealing it is fixing it.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:50 am to Rakim
Rand Paul should have been the nominee. Too bad Americans are too stupid and are easily distracted by political fireworks.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:52 am to Rakim
This is why I voted for him in the primaries.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:57 am to Texas Weazel
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Rand Paul should have been the nominee. Too bad Americans are too stupid and are easily distracted by political fireworks.
Paul made the mistake of coming prepared with plans and experience instead of a cool catchphrase.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:58 am to Rakim
#Rand2020
Get back on the train fellas
Get back on the train fellas
Posted on 6/11/17 at 12:00 pm to Rakim
Instead we'll get a shite sandwich, and Trump will go hold rallies for it and his sheep will praise him for it.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:31 pm to Rakim
He's right. There is no fixing it.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:36 pm to Rakim
Rand will vote for AHCA if it comes to the floor.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:39 pm to Texas Weazel
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Rand Paul should have been the nominee. Too bad Americans are too stupid and are easily distracted by political fireworks.
Agreed, Rand would have been the best choice out of any of the candidates from either party. Trump wasn't elected because of his policies but rather as a frick you to the government in general imo. It felt good but realistically Rand would have been a much better choice.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:42 pm to DavidTheGnome
Well unfortunately you have to run a capable campaign to win
And the republicans are working on a super secret bill because the nation said so
Jesus the world is full of morons
And the republicans are working on a super secret bill because the nation said so
Jesus the world is full of morons
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:44 pm to Rakim
Rand is right. Too bad he sucks at building coalitions/consensus.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:44 pm to SoulGlo
Rand Paul sucks and will never be President
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:47 pm to gthog61
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Well unfortunately you have to run a capable campaign to win
You're right, but a lot of campaigning is just theatrics though. We are losing sight (lost a long time ago really) of who would actually be best at governance over who has the most commercials and internet presence and such - and almost all of that is just fluff.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:49 pm to ChexMix
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Rand Paul sucks
How come?
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:52 pm to Rakim
Straight up repeal and no replacement is fine with me.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:55 pm to DavidTheGnome
He still has 30 years or so to try and is limited to 8 if he ever wins and I believe he will be needed more later anyway
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