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re: When did the right stop being about limited government and start peddling conspiracies?
Posted on 5/29/17 at 2:02 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 5/29/17 at 2:02 pm to Antonio Moss
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But if the point is simply to point out that Poster A doesn't care about illicit fiscal relationships until the other side has them, then it is a legitimate means of discrediting Poster A. It's doesn't mean the substance is wrong; only that the Poster is selective in his outrage and unprincipled.
That's a logical fallacy, appeal to hypocrisy
It's also often used very unfairly and unevenly, making if even less legitimate
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Pointing out hypocrisy is important because it harms credibility down the line.
The problem is that anybody can say "well you have no credibility" as a means of deflecting, regardless of whether or not it's true
You seem to want to be able to avoid addressing legitimate questions and concerns with impunity when it suits your purposes. If you don't see how that's a problem then I can't help you.
This post was edited on 5/29/17 at 2:04 pm
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 2:09 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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That's a logical fallacy, appeal to hypocrisy
Yes, but logical fallacies only apply to substantive arguments. Arguments exist on levels other than substance. Think about court cases.
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The problem is that anybody can say "well you have no credibility" as a means of deflecting, regardless of whether or not it's true
Given the broad spectrum of information (both legitimate and illegitimate) presented, credibility is an incredibly important filtering tool. You use this everyday; I guarantee it. If I sent you links from Zero Hedge about Pizza Gate, are you going to waste your time arguing substance with me?
Of course not.
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You seem to want to be able to avoid addressing legitimate questions and concerns with impunity when it suits your purposes.
Its actually the opposite. It's a process of ciphering through the nonsense so that you can get to the substance worth arguing.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 2:09 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The problem is that anybody can say "well you have no credibility" as a means of deflecting, regardless of whether or not it's true
And you have yet to address my link regarding the dems and 9/11 in response to your WTF reaction when it was pointed out to you.
I posted it THREE times in the thread w/out response.
Yes,I realize the OP was complete troll on your part.
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