re: There goes Paul thinking again!!!!

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you know he threw 7 or 8 pitches before he even threw a curve ball right

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yes, he did and with a 3 run lead that's normal to give the D a chance to make an out or two. but he needs his curveball to be who he is. and i did not see even one strike with one. he hit the batter with one and walked a batter with one.

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So did he know he didn't have it when he came into the game? If so it seems he would have had Gilbert getting ready.

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i seriously doubt a pitcher knows he doesn't have his pitch when he enters the game. sometimes you throw them fine in warm ups in the pen. the game is different.