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re: Group looking to get Sam Houston statue removed from Hermann Park in Houston

Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:32 pm to
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27498 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:32 pm to
No way it's gonna happen. It's just a fringe group pushing this right now. It's not the mayor like it was in New Orleans.

But it just goes to show you how insane people are.

Sam Houston is like the father of Texas. He fought in the Battle of San Jacinto and won Texas' independence. Also, and here's the kicker:

He was also the only governor within a future Confederate state to oppose secession (which led to the outbreak of the American Civil War) and to refuse an oath of allegiance to the Confederacy, a decision that led to his removal from office by the Texas secession convention.

When he was a young man, he spent time with the Cherokee Nation, into which he later was adopted as a citizen and into which he married.



So this is a guy who is a Texas hero, was governor, was against secession, refused to support the Confederacy and was removed from office because of it, was made a Cherokee by the Cherokees and married a Native American woman. In the 1800's!

And yet they want his statue removed. The only explanation is because he's white. That's all I can come up with.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58772 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:43 pm to
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The only explanation is because he's white. That's all I can come up with.


He did technically own some slaves inherited from his 3rd marriage and in his final run for Governor he made what seemed to be a political calculation by running on slavery not getting banned in the South (though was still against it's expansion) in an attempt to stop succession from happening.

That has to be what their ire stems from but if you look at his whole career and life he clearly was not a fan of slavery.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 10:56 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30493 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 12:18 am to
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But it just goes to show you how insane people are.



agreed

quote:


Sam Houston is like the father of Texas. He fought in the Battle of San Jacinto and won Texas' independence. Also, and here's the kicker:

He was also the only governor within a future Confederate state to oppose secession (which led to the outbreak of the American Civil War) and to refuse an oath of allegiance to the Confederacy, a decision that led to his removal from office by the Texas secession convention.



although Beauregard fought for the confederate, dude absolutely hated davis' guts during and after. He also made a lot of strides for Louisiana, New Orleans, and civil rights after the war.

but you know, one bad action defames all the good he's done.

should just remove washington, jefferson, etc --- pretty much everything before 1865 to be honest.
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 6:00 am to
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And yet they want his statue removed. The only explanation is because he's white. That's all I can come up with.

The explanation is...... they are dumbasses!!!
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12839 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 8:35 am to
The only explanation is that these idiots didn't take history in high school or college (assuming they made it that far).

That is the only way to explain a group of idiots wanting to remove the statue of one of the greatest heroes in the history of Texas.

But maybe we've got it all wrong. Maybe the Civil War they are talking about is not the American Civil War. Maybe it's a cover up. Maybe they are just Santa Anna sympathizers, and this is all about still wanting to be a Mexican territory...lmao!
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 5:41 pm to
and the women he married was my great great great great aunt or something like that..
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