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1) the Russians "stole" the election. No proof provided. New claim...

2) the Russians colluded with Trump. No proof provided. New claim...

3) the Russians colluded with Trump's campaign. No proof provided. Next claim...

Show me news article from CNN, WaPo, the NYT, or another main stream hard news organization that claims definitively that Russia stole the election (as in Russia was THE deciding factor) or that there was definite collusion with Trump or his campaign. You'll get no partial credit for posting an editorial because you're a big boy and you should know that editorials are opinion and not news.

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4) "Sauces" told CNN ROSENSTIEN threatened to resign because WH placed Comey firing on him. Rosenstein COMPLETELY DENIED THIS FAKE NEWS.

Rosenstein denying it doesn't prove it false. You're expecting Rosenstein to admit publicly that he threatened to quit and then backed down?

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6) Trump leaked state secrets to Russians. The so-called proof was from "2 officials" at the meeting. It is easy for media to claim "secrets were leaked" to the Russians when the media does not have to reveal their "sauces". Did 2 officials really say what the media claims? Interview these officials on the news or else it is another made up story.

The story didn't claim the sources were at the meeting. They may have seen the transcripts of the meeting that the White House later redacted or they may have been a part of the calls that were made to inform the NSA and CIA of Trump's frick up.

You're so deperate to justify your victim complex and convince yourself the media is being unfair that you're getting basic facts wrong about the stories you're complaining about. It's hilarious, but also pitiful.

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Posted by thelawnwranglers

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Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:18 am to skiptumahloo

I don't watch their nonsense

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Posted by AUstar

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Posted on 5/18/17 at 5:33 am to skiptumahloo

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Show me news article from CNN, WaPo, the NYT, or another main stream hard news organization that claims definitively that Russia stole the election (as in Russia was THE deciding factor) or that there was definite collusion with Trump or his campaign. You'll get no partial credit for posting an editorial because you're a big boy and you should know that editorials are opinion and not news.

If the MSM didn't want us to believe it, they wouldn't report it. They for sure would not even bother reporting it if Hillary Clinton were in office and these "charges" were made against her.

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Rosenstein denying it doesn't prove it false. You're expecting Rosenstein to admit publicly that he threatened to quit and then backed down?

I trust Rosenstein's word over an anonymous source.

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The story didn't claim the sources were at the meeting. They may have seen the transcripts of the meeting that the White House later redacted or they may have been a part of the calls that were made to inform the NSA and CIA of Trump's frick up.

Gen McMaster (who McCain loves) said there was nothing to this story. "I know, I was in the room" McMaster said. Dina Powell (a former Bush person) said the same thing, as did Rex Tillerson.

Second, the POTUS can declassify anything he wants. Indeed, there have been many times the POTUS (in both parties) has provided foreign governments classified material on the spot (without consulting anyone). Sometimes this has been accidental. In such a case, it is SOP to call the IC and tell them what was disclosed. This does not imply a "cover-up," but is more of a "Hey, such and such information is now public, just letting you know."

It would be far from the first time such a thing has happened and I don't recall impeachment proceedings for it in the past.

Moreover, the WaPo and NYT have told the public more about this classified material than Trump told the Russians.