So what. These are two of the 3 biggest games of the year. They are bigger than Rose and Sugar bowl. They should be played on a Sunday or Monday or Thursday, the nights that give you the most viewers. I don't think anyone forced them to do it on NYE, that was their choice. They should have been played on the 2nd, which was a Monday, when everyone would be likely still off of work, but returning home for the holidays and what not and ready to get back to work the next day.

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The NFL gave the top prime time games to NBC, it's not like ESPN would pick Jaguars-Bengals over Cowboys-Giants

Well they need to learn how to negotiate. This is where their arrogance comes into play where they just assume people will watch it b/c it's MNF.

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I don't feel like looking it up, but is the start time really later than it used to be? By 30 minutes MAYBE. Game length seems like more of an issue.

The game time ESPN states is 8:30 eastern time. Kickoff is more like 8:50. A good bit of your demographic, 25-45 year old men, have put their kids to bed and aren't that far behind in going to bed themselves. 75% of the country lives on this side of the country. They should start an hour earlier. The vast majority of NFL fans live in the eastern time zone, yet it's close to 11pm when the 3rd quarter starts. Unless your team is playing, most people aren't staying up for that. They also have like 3 hours of pregame crap that no one watches that they think is important. The only reason the SNF pregame show has such great ratings is b/c it's a nice recap to the day since they show the highlights of all the sunday games.

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Posted by H-Town Tiger

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Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:54 pm to TeddyPadillac

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If they aren't, they it's their own fault for not seeing these things when negotiating.

You have made some good points, this is not one of them, it's over simplistic and silly.

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So what. These are two of the 3 biggest games of the year. They are bigger than Rose and Sugar bowl. They should be played on a Sunday or Monday or Thursday, the nights that give you the most viewers. I don't think anyone forced them to do it on NYE, that was their choice. They should have been played on the 2nd, which was a Monday, when everyone would be likely still off of work, but returning home for the holidays and what not and ready to get back to work the next day.

When Jan 1 is a Sunday then Monday Jan 2 is the official holiday and hence the Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl got their traditional spots. And it was College Football, (the big conferences and Bowls) that said this is when the game will be, not ESPN. I guess they could have used the 20/20 hindsight to say the games would be ratings disasters and I think they will change it going forward. But bad ratings for any one game is not on and of itself a critical problem. That ratings were down across the board all at once may be a big issue, but still not close to the cord cutting. You yourself said sub fees was 60% of their revenue. When they lose that it's gone, it's not like they got no revenue from ads, any they may have had to give back pales to the cord cutting loses.

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Well they need to learn how to negotiate. This is where their arrogance comes into play where they just assume people will watch it b/c it's MNF.

They grossly overpaid but it was the NFL that wanted the best games on Network TV on Sunday. Besides, live sports long lost money, the networks used to draw viewers for other programmin. Also The ratings for the NFL overall were down last year, that is also not ESPNs fault, you are also grossly over ratings the impact of lost revenue due to bad ratings. They don't expect the same as revenue for MNF that SNF gets for NBC.

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