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re: Ed's got this. No worries. Update: Drunk man pontificates on things beyond him

Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:20 am to
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:20 am to
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Yes, far be it from fans to hold the HC accountable for his touting of the recruiting and program consistency he said he offered over other candidates


what was he supposed to say you moron?

We're going to lose at an alarming rate and drop out of relevance?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:22 am to
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What has Ed Orgeron done to warrant those extra year?


So starting with a new HC and OC and a crappy QB situation (thanks to your boy) he's supposed to what????

Win out???

Seamless right? 11 wins at least?

You cant be this stupid.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:28 am to
LOL you're delusional
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58295 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:35 am to
I hate these fcking threads. It's going to be this way all offseason.
Someone starts an O thread and then several pages of bitching and fighting about O and Miles.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:35 am to
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Rescued a plummeting recruiting class,


Lol what?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:36 am to
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Okay...put yourself in Alleva's shoes, who should he have gone out and hired to be the head football coach?


How many times are you gonna ask this?

Are you seriously suggesting that hiring a 55 year old career position coach that has never run a successful offense,defense or a successful program was the best lsu could get?
Alleva should've hired Aranda before ed Orgeron. Aranda is a coveted DC tbat has proven he can lock down one side of the ball.

So to answer your question for the 100th time....

He should've hired someone that has proven they can AT LEAST run a successful side of the ball.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:37 am to
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Okay, put yourself in Alleva's shoes, what would you have done to ensure LSU ended up with a top notch hire?


Anyone that has proven they can at least run a successful side of the ball. Coach O didnt even have the best resume on staff.
Amanda's resume shits on Ed Orgeron's resume.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11215 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:40 am to
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There are no title winning teams that have head coaches just get out of the way and let both coordinators run their side of the ball. Not a single one. Just because Miles was too hands on doesnt mean we should hire someome that is completely hands off.


While i do agree its a terrible plan, im hanging my hopes on that it seems to be working for Clemson. Dabo is mainly a recruiter, never even been a coordinator and lets his coordinators coach. So im willing to give it a chance and am cautiously optimistic for the future, but mostly concerned about the long term sustainability of depending on having great coordinators. If they're really great they usually move on to HC or NFL jobs.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:41 am to
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So starting with a new HC and OC and a crappy QB situation (thanks to your boy) he's supposed to what????

Win out??? 


A new HC that sold us on continuity.
No one said win out.
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You cant be this stupid. 


Says the guy that crapped on miles for underachieving with all this talent and then says miles left O a steaming pile of mess.

Says the guy that Says miles not getting job offers means he sucks as a coach yet O wasnt even getting coordinators job offers.

Says the guy that gets upset when anyone posts FACTS about ed orgeron yet crapped on miles for years.

You can be and are that stupid.

Its amazing how you dont expect 10 wins for ed Orgeron yet called miles a shite coach for winning 10 games 4 of the last 5 years.

This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 9:50 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:44 am to
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im hanging my hopes on that it seems to be working for Clemson. 


Dabo is heavily involved in the offense. Where is this proof that Dabo isnt heavily involved in the offense?
Chad Morris' last year their offense was worse than 2014 lsu and they got better once he left.
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Dabo is mainly a recruiter, never even been a coordinator 

He was the OC and play caller during his interim tenure.
He ran the offense during his interim tenure.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:46 am to
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what was he supposed to say you moron? 

We're going to lose at an alarming rate and drop out of relevance?






So the coach sold us on continuity of winning and recruiting and yet you're upset when lsu fans want to hold him to his word?

How did you react when Miles lied about changing the offense?
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 9:50 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:49 am to
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Take a break.


So I should be banned for stating facts?
I didnt start this thread.
I havent started a negative O thread since the weekend he was named HC.
Its like you dont understand that i have the same right to post my opinion as you do.

Im not making personal attacks toward O. I'm stating facts about his career up to this point.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203628 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:51 am to
And how do you know that coach O wasn't heavily involved in the LSU offense after he took over?????
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:55 am to
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Yeah a coach that wouldnt get interviewed at vandy or Kentucky is what our great program needs.



Do you have a link to document the above, or is that one of your many facts that you made up right off the top of your head?

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If all Ed Orgeron is doing is letting the coordinators do every thing then why even hire him? Let him remain as a our recruiting coordinator and hire a head coach tbatthat has proven he can add something to the offensive and defensive game plans.

There are no title winning teams that have head coaches just get out of the way and let both coordinators run their side of the ball. Not a single one. Just because Miles was too hands on doesnt mean we should hire someome that is completely hands off.


Uhm...just wondering, other than you, who has said this is how coach O coaches the team or intends to coach the team? I don't know about that man, almost everytime I watched practice videos during spring practice I always saw coach O hands on coaching players.

When I used to watch the videos of practice when Miles was the coach, I hardly ever saw Miles being hands on with players. I saw him mostly walking around like he was lost and only every once in a while did I see him commenting to a player.

I admit I used to compare Miles to when Saban was still coaching here and was actually doing very hands-on coaching with the players and shake my head in disgust.

Not to mention, that Miles was so inarticulate it didn't matter because none of the players could have understood what he was trying to say in any event.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 10:27 am
Posted by yessir
Here
Member since Apr 2008
6583 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:06 am to
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What? You do realize that he was the recruiting coordinator,right? Did he rescue a plummeting class that he was letting plummet?


Are you suggesting that an uncertainty at head coach this year had no effect whatsoever on recruits?
Posted by vjm41
Lake Charles, La
Member since Jan 2008
910 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:07 am to
Someone should sit down and teach RD the definition of Facts. Miles blew the 05 season but will get a pass cause of Storms, blew the 06 season in which the the old lady next door that walks her dog in my yard could have coached that team and she probably wouldn't have lost 2 games, I mean a year which Jimbo could write a book about Miles horrible coaching & losing 2 games in 07 was pretty hard to do but not for Miles. Question, Does RD have other feeling for men the way he has for Miles or is RD a female? I sure hope so
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39987 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:08 am to
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This is his dream job

I'm sold ! :dude: :dude: :dude:
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18167 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:09 am to
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I would argue he can't be judged in terms of QB play unto earliest January 2019. You have to wait until there is a complete and effective season under his belt with a QB plus another (fall, spring, summer).

Think end 2nd year.

Nonsense. Kiffin came in to Alabama with a brand new system and in one season turned Blake Sims into an effective QB. A good OC doesn't need two full years to get results.
Posted by yessir
Here
Member since Apr 2008
6583 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:10 am to
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The best coaches in cfb are hands on.


Tell that to Dabo.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:11 am to
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Are you seriously suggesting that hiring a 55 year old career position coach that has never run a successful offense,defense or a successful program was the best lsu could get?
Alleva should've hired Aranda before ed Orgeron. Aranda is a coveted DC tbat has proven he can lock down one side of the ball.


By the way, by all accounts coach O did an excellent job at USC and LSU, so you are full of yourself and obviously little more than a hater. Not only that, but he came very highly recommended by people astronomically far more intelligent and far more qualified than you are.

So according to you, we should have fired O after the season and after a successful audition for the job and hired Dave Aranda, a coordinator with only a year of experience coaching at LSU, instead, and at one of the top five head coaching jobs in the country no less.

A coordinator with no previous ties to the university, no previous head coaching experience whatsoever, and without even knowing if he is ready for a head coaching job.

Now we know why you are not an Athletic Director, you’d be a freaking disaster. You’d be the Les Miles of the Athletic Director field.

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So to answer your question for the 100th time....


I only asked you one time before. Like everything else you do, you also can’t count either.





This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 10:30 am
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