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re: Americans will go bankrupt and die!

Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:36 pm to
You could pay 2k/month in premiums for a plan for you and your spouse with a 6k deductible. Sooo "affordable" for most folks, right? Then you get sick and the fun starts.

Where has her outrage been for that scenario which is playing out for many people under the current system?

The ACA has hardly been "affordable." Getting everyone insured is a nice goal, but it's comical that affordable is in the name.
This post was edited on 5/6/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
37422 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 3:13 pm to
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The ACA has hardly been "affordable." Getting everyone insured is a nice goal, but it's comical that affordable is in the name.
This pretty much sums it up.

Yes, it would be nice to have everyone covered. But, myself, like many other Americans, are tired of paying for people to sit at home and not contribute to society.

I have a perspective that some on this board may not have. I used to snort heroin like it was some good miracle drug that would extend my life. During that time period, I was deeply involved with the inner cities. Those people who sell dope sit around, use WIC, EBT and get free health care, just because they can. They sit around and most have more cash money on hand than most people would like to think possible. They are born into the belief this is all owed to them and the government should support them, all the while having 100s of thousands and even millions of dollars in cash on hand. Meanwhile, I was working my arse off, paying them in 2 forms. Through taxes so they could sit at home and continue that lifestyle while I worked my arse off and with cash bc I needed drugs to even maintain a horrible existence.

I have completely changed and now work for an engineering company and am doing great, but I am still paying taxes for them to live that same lifestyle.

It's time, for us as a society, to quit promoting this lifestyle and quit giving handouts to people who are able to work and choose not to do so and instead manipulate the system. During my whole struggle, not once did I receive or even want a handout, even though I could have went to rehab and been pretty much covered through handouts through the ACA. I did it cold turkey bc I refused to be a burden on society.

I can't remember who said it, but it's so true. It was basically, once you start giving out handouts and free things, it's hard to take them back bc many become dependant on that and see it as their right. It's really a sad situation we've created, whether it be healthcare, social security or other forms of handouts.

Sorry for the long post, but it pisses me off with my past experiences.
This post was edited on 5/6/17 at 3:14 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99779 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 5:51 pm to
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Where has her outrage been for that scenario which is playing out for many people under the current system?


There wasn't any, because they never see that bill. With subsidies, they pay pennies (if anything).
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