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re: Where is the ACLU on free speech for Ann C.?

Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:08 am to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:08 am to
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he black leaders pushed it then yeah they could
oh I suspect tgey would be getting dozens of calls from the ACLU begging to help. I doubt they would have to call the ACLU

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Where she blows up her own chances in court what is the ACLU supposed to do?
like I said. If local governments told black people that it was up to them to make the call as to whether they were going to protect their supporters because the government was going to stand down you bet your arse that lawyers would be tripping over themselves calling the black people in question.

If you're trying to tell me that the ACLU would sit back and not try to make equal protection claims when the government was choosing repeat choosing to not protect a subset of people from violent threats I'm just going to sit here and laugh.

That doesn't even remotely pass the smell test

I mean we really taking the position that the only recourse for blacks in such a situation would be to hold the speech and watch their supporters getting beaten or worse before they can do anything?
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 7:10 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:14 am to
And let's not even just talk about blacks.

Let's see some governments tell organizers of Gay Pride parades that the police will be standing down if openly threatening violent protesters show up. Let's see what the reaction is if Government basically tells the organizers that is there a call as to what to do. But oh by the way you can't bring your own armed security team
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 7:15 am
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 7:15 am to
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oh I suspect tgey would be getting dozens of calls from the ACLU begging to help. I doubt they would have to call the ACLU


And they may have called Ann Coulter and been turned down here. We don't know what happened. The irony of your example is that the ACLU has actually done work supporting the KKK.

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If you're trying to tell me that the ACLU would sit back and not try to make equal protection claims when the government was choosing repeat choosing to not protect a subset of people from violent threats I'm just going to sit here and laugh.


If they could find a viable plaintiff I'm sure they would make the claims. Where the viable plaintiff blows up her case though? What can they do?

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I mean we really taking the position that the only recourse for blacks in such a situation would be to hold the speech and watch their supporters getting beaten or worse before they can do anything?


No you file a court case prior to the speech and request a TRO. Even if you don't give the speech, you don't say "I'm choosing not to do this."
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