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If I can be arrested for harboring a fugitive, why can a city get away with it?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:17 pm
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If you had a friend that committed a violent crime, and you helped that friend avoid law enforcement, you are guilty of harboring, or aiding and abetting a fugitive. Charged with either a felony or misdemeanor, you could be facing fines and/or imprisonment for your crime. The best solution for you and your friend, possibly, would be to relocate to a sanctuary city - a place like New York, San Francisco, or any other city deemed a safe haven.
But here’s a revelation: there are no sanctuary cities for natural-born U.S. citizens. They don’t exist; and honestly, the thought of such a concept is completely preposterous.
So, why does the United States offer safe havens to violent criminal offenders that are illegally living in the United States?
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:18 pm to L.A.
You can be arrested for hindering prosecution even if the person you are harboring committed a non-violent crime.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:19 pm to L.A.
Logic is not an ally of our regressive brethren sadly.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:19 pm to L.A.
The wrath of the federal government needs to come down on these rogue states like a hammer. Yes I said it, you either use all the tools of government like Democrats do or the GOP will lose. States rights on the left can go to hell after what Obama did to us. Make them pay.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:53 pm to L.A.
The golden rule.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:02 pm to L.A.
There's a lot of things state and local governments can do that people get arrested for. Like execute someone, etc.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:02 pm to FooManChoo
How did obama get away with it?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:20 pm to Celery
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There's a lot of things state and local governments can do that people get arrested for.
The left cheered when Arizona was told that immigration was the sole domain of the federal government. I must ask, what changed?
Arizona v United States
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Like execute someone, etc.
Both the states and the federal government have the authority to administer capital punishment. Not sure what your angle is here.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:26 pm to Five0
Just following the OPs logic. Essentially the question was why can't he do something that state and local governments can do.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:28 pm to Celery
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Essentially the question was why can't he do something that state and local governments can do.
Because of the LAW. That is my point.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:29 pm to Five0
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Not sure what your angle is here.
You serious Clark? He made a simple analogy.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:29 pm to L.A.
Technically speaking, a fugitive is someone who is on the run. Pedro that goes to work everyday and just gets away with it isn't exactly running. Also, sanctuary cities, as retarded as they are, are not harboring in the sense that they are impeding the capture of illegals. The simply are not aiding the feds do their job.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:36 pm to TigernMS12
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The simply are not aiding the feds do their job.
That is the definition of hindering prosecution.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:42 pm to Five0
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That is the definition of hindering prosecution.
Maybe in your mind. Not legally though. Hindering in legal terms (the only definition that counts) is actively impeding an investigation (aiding the fugitive). Simply doing nothing, is just that. Doing nothing.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:43 pm to TigernMS12
If you say so. They are doing more than nothing and you know it.
LINK
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This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:46 pm to Five0
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If you say so. They are doing more than nothing and you know it.
If anyone could prove that cities were actively aiding criminals and impeding law enforcement from doing their job, then by all means convene a grand jury. I'd be all for it, as I think the idea of a sanctuary city is retarded. However, any local government has the right, under the Constitution to tell the feds to do their own work.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:47 pm to TigernMS12
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However, any local government has the right, under the Constitution to tell the feds to do their own work.
Precisely why they should lose all federal funding.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:49 pm to Five0
From your link:
All that basically says is were not spending our money to enforce fed law or assisting you do your job; put differently "We're not going to help."
Harboring would be actively impeding the feds from doing their job, such as actively hiding illegals from feds or not allowing feds to operate. That would be an offense worth prosecuting.
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There is no specific legal definition for what constitutes a sanctuary jurisdiction but the term is widely used to refer to American cities, counties or states that protect undocumented immigrants from deportation by limiting cooperation with federal immigration authorities. Some decline to use city or state tax dollars to enforce federal immigration laws. Many prohibit local officials from asking people about their immigration status.
All that basically says is were not spending our money to enforce fed law or assisting you do your job; put differently "We're not going to help."
Harboring would be actively impeding the feds from doing their job, such as actively hiding illegals from feds or not allowing feds to operate. That would be an offense worth prosecuting.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:49 pm to L.A.
Rule of Law is for Conservatives only.
Leftists do not believe in it.
They make exceptions only when a particular law furthers their goals.
Leftists do not believe in it.
They make exceptions only when a particular law furthers their goals.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:54 pm to TigernMS12
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There is no specific legal definition for what constitutes a sanctuary jurisdiction but the term is widely used to refer to American cities, counties or states that protect undocumented immigrants from deportation by limiting cooperation with federal immigration authorities. Some decline to use city or state tax dollars to enforce federal immigration laws. Many prohibit local officials from asking people about their immigration status.
From my link, you don't say.
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