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re: List the college basketball Blue Blood Programs
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:55 pm to slackster
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:55 pm to slackster
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If Indiana and Kansas are in, then Louisville should be Tier 1 as well. 33 years between their first and last title, as many titles as Kansas and a higher winning percentage than Indiana.
Louisville always gets the short shrift in these discussions. They're pretty clearly either #6 or #7 depending on how you look at it, and they're a lot closer to the IU/KU tier than they are the Michigan State/UConn/Cincinnati tier.
As many titles as Kansas, more Final Fours than IU. They're between 4th and 6th in a bunch of other major categories (all time tournament appearances, all time tournament wins, Sweet Sixteens, Elite Eights, Final Fours, etc.). Final Fours in five different decades under three different coaches. Top ten all time in both wins and winning percentage. They were the program of the decade in the 1980's despite the hoopla the Big East programs got.
They've never had the star power and pop that some of the other programs near that level have had, but the consistency and success since the 1950's or so is pretty remarkable.
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:02 pm to AbuTheMonkey
Agree on Louisville
Kansas really milks the Naismith angle...if he didn't coach there...Kansas wouldn't be put on a pedestal with Kentucky, North Carolina and UCLA.
Kansas would be more "Louisville". In football terms, Kansas is more Michigan and less...Oklahoma, Notre Dame, USC and Alabama.
And Indiana plays up the angle that they invented basketball as well as a state.
And by proxy IU has to be up there with Kansas as the epi-centers of basketball, so we're told. I don't care how many kids hit jump shots off barn doors in Indiana...it's what the team has actually done that matters...the school...and I don't care if KU has the original rules of basketball in their athletic center.
Blueblood is about success. Not Hoosiers movies and mythology. Sure those two states might be mad about basketball and might be the best basketball states...
States don't win titles...Universities do.
Kansas really milks the Naismith angle...if he didn't coach there...Kansas wouldn't be put on a pedestal with Kentucky, North Carolina and UCLA.
Kansas would be more "Louisville". In football terms, Kansas is more Michigan and less...Oklahoma, Notre Dame, USC and Alabama.
And Indiana plays up the angle that they invented basketball as well as a state.
And by proxy IU has to be up there with Kansas as the epi-centers of basketball, so we're told. I don't care how many kids hit jump shots off barn doors in Indiana...it's what the team has actually done that matters...the school...and I don't care if KU has the original rules of basketball in their athletic center.
Blueblood is about success. Not Hoosiers movies and mythology. Sure those two states might be mad about basketball and might be the best basketball states...
States don't win titles...Universities do.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:18 am to AbuTheMonkey
Definitely agree there are the 6 blue bloods with Indiana and UCLA on the edee.
The Miller era at Indiana will determine if Indiana can return to relevance after essentially a 30 year absence.
Same goes for UCLA. Let's see if Alford can keep it going after the one year wonder Ball leaves for the NBA.
Louisville, with a couple more FFs and a national title may replace Indiana. Hard to knock out UCLA with their 12 year run for the ages.
The Miller era at Indiana will determine if Indiana can return to relevance after essentially a 30 year absence.
Same goes for UCLA. Let's see if Alford can keep it going after the one year wonder Ball leaves for the NBA.
Louisville, with a couple more FFs and a national title may replace Indiana. Hard to knock out UCLA with their 12 year run for the ages.
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