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re: Why are you where you are on immigration

Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:40 pm to
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If illegal immigration is all about costs, jobs, and those folks paying their fair share of taxes, then why is amnesty off the table? Wouldn't it be much cheaper and productive to offer those that are here and working a chance to get their status in order and start paying taxes?
Because amnesty is itself a copout. It is a de facto creation of citizenship in individuals who have given up nothing to be a citizen. At the same time, I would support a path to citizenship.

Prior to this path, I want full control of the borders. On top of that, every individual must personally go and admit they entered or stayed within the country illegally. This will occur within a certain time frame. If they miss the time frame, they are not permitted entry.

They also must prove that they have been in the country for a minimum of 3-5 years.

On top of that, if they have broken any laws, they are denied entry on to the pathway.

The pathway will consist of thorough history courses on American history and courses in English. English must also be proclaimed the official language of this nation. There will be work requirements as well.

Also, non-citizens are not permitted any form of welfare. On top of that, birth right citizenship is revoked. At least one parent must be an American citizen.

For those who are attempting to gain citizenship after staying here for a number of years illegally, they must officially renounce any and all ties to their country of birth.

That's a start for me.
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:55 pm to
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On top of that, every individual must personally go and admit they entered or stayed within the country illegally. This will occur within a certain time frame. If they miss the time frame, they are not permitted entry.


This is essentially what amnesty would look like.

For the record, I agree with most everyone here regarding illegal immigration, except this massive wall that will become a boondoggle, and booting "every single one of them" out.

I know illegals out here that have businesses via fake SSNs, live in nice homes, etc. They aren't living off of my dime, but they sure as shite aren't doing it right.

However, booting them out seems pointless if they have created a nice income source. Fine the shite out of them, sure, but sending them back isn't the best course of action.

I'd imagine these folks I'm talking about would get in line pretty quickly if it was offered.

As far as assimilation goes, their kids are about as American as it gets. First gen never really assimilates, second gen does. If you're concerned about votes, push the GOP to appeal to the second gen types.
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