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re: Trump on Healthcare: "Who Knew?"
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:21 pm to uway
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:21 pm to uway
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Won't worry about anymore except while waiting months on end to see a foreign doctor, you mean?
Have you actually looked at the data behind this, or are you just trotting out the general narrative that gets brought up ad naseum whenever a single player system is mentioned?
Because, mutliple sources, looking at the actual data show that that's simply not the case.
There are certainly benefits and costs to consider for any type of healthcare system. That said, the boogieman of huge wait times associated with single payer systems are overblown.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:39 pm to Strophie
Your AARP link is not backed up with sources for the most part. It's an opinion piece.
I didn't click the other link since you used poor judgement.
I didn't click the other link since you used poor judgement.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:45 pm to Strophie
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Have you actually looked at the data behind this, or are you just trotting out the general narrative that gets brought up ad naseum whenever a single player system is mentioned?
You must be new here. Trumpkins don't do facts or data, they're not MAGA.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:56 pm to Strophie
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There are certainly benefits and costs to consider for any type of healthcare system. That said, the boogieman of huge wait times associated with single payer systems are overblown.
So you think a 3-month wait for cataract surgery or 6-month wait for a hip replacement is "overblown." So noted.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:00 pm to Strophie
quote:Negative.
boogieman of huge wait times associated with single payer systems are overblown.
Wait times are not some mystical datapoint.
They are resource driven.
"Cost savings" via single payer come vis-a-vis the payer monopoly. Single payer economics are no longer a matter of "what the market will bear." Rather it is a sole matter of what the monopoly decides to pay. In the case of healthcare, the situation reverts to what providers and facilities are willing to bear.
The concomitant cost of provider and facility willingness to accept such randomly determined payer remuneration is passed on to the consumer. That "cost" is measured in diminished availability, decreased quality, and increased wait times.
Given the uniquely adversarial, inefficient tort system US single payer would overlay, those consumer "costs" would escalate quickly.
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