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re: Have you ever wondered where that "97% of all scientists" assertion came from?
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:23 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:23 pm to GumboPot
What I think is the most problematic is how the 97% is used.
As I understand it, the 97% refers to (1) belief that earth is warming and (2) belief that humans have at least SOME contribution to that warming. That two statements are not really controversial in the first place.
The problem is that any level of skepticism is countered with the 97%, BUT it's very possible that the skepticism doesn't disagree with the low bar set by the consensus figure.
In other words, they set a low bar for consensus, then often raise the bar when countering claims. It's dishonest through and through.
As I understand it, the 97% refers to (1) belief that earth is warming and (2) belief that humans have at least SOME contribution to that warming. That two statements are not really controversial in the first place.
The problem is that any level of skepticism is countered with the 97%, BUT it's very possible that the skepticism doesn't disagree with the low bar set by the consensus figure.
In other words, they set a low bar for consensus, then often raise the bar when countering claims. It's dishonest through and through.
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 4:26 pm
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:25 pm to buckeye_vol
The other problem is that it's 97% of all papers, not all scientists. And it's not even that, it's 97% of all papers expressing an opinion (since there are lots of papers that focus on the effects and therefore don't contain an explicit statement of the cause).
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:25 pm to buckeye_vol
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As I understand it, the 97% refers to (1) belief that earth is warming and (2) belief that humans have at least SOME contribution to that warming. That two statements are not really controversial in the first place
They're controversial on this board. Didn't you know that burning fossil fuels is actually good for the environment?
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:30 pm to buckeye_vol
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The problem is that any level of skepticism is countered with the 97%, BUT it's very possible that the skepticism doesn't disagree with the low bar set by the consensus figure.
The biggest issue for "skeptics" is the underlying political agenda.
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