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re: My question to liberals on this voter registration issue

Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:42 am to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
53109 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:42 am to
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What is truly amazing is the number of those people handicapped in the way described above who also can't understand why it is slightly more difficult to do EVERYTHING in life if you are poor or work in a job where you aren't free to run little errands during the work day like most people in low to moderate income jobs are.


So people that work low income jobs work every single day? This is a simplistic and utterly bullshite excuse and you know it.

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These same handicapped people also can't understand why it is just a little more difficult to get to a government office building that is 15 miles one way from your home when you don't own a car and must walk, and take public transportation.



Again, a person, throughout his/her lifetime, is unable to conquer this feat? These aren't snails, these are people. Nothing you've mentioned so far contains 1 oz. of common sense. Secondly, the right to vote isn't an involuntary reflex. A very slim modicum of effort is required to obtain an ID. If you don't have one, you either really don't care about voting, or you are an illegal. That is the only options nowadays with today's technology and government assistance available to anything with a pulse.

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. I am only suggesting that it is amazing that handicapped people


Your description of the "barriers" preventing people from getting ID's could only mean these people are severely handicap preventing them from attaining ID's. But please, continue to think it is the rational people that are handicapped.

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y BUT it is as easy for a person working 16 hours a day


You are assuming the poor work 16 hours a day based on what? Feelings? If you want to base it on the BLS, the average work week is 34 hours/week. That's for full time employees. ARe you somehow saying that the poor part time worker is working more hours than the full time employee? Your argument if failing around your own words.

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This is why I think we should pass voter ID laws because it will ease the fears of the snowflake who believes (they certainly aren't thinking) that voter ID laws are about the sanctity of the ballot box and not about making it a little more likely that poor people won't go to the trouble of voting.



Voter ID laws are common sense. You know it, i know it, we all know it. You can come on here and pretend like requiring an ID vs. using the honor system is some big travesty and inconvenience to the poor but you have literally zero proof or evidence just based on your idiotic logic that somehow the poorest of society also work 16 hours/day, 365 days/year. Your argument is filled with stupidity. It's evident by the scenario you make up to support it, not by any facts or figures.

You are a poor, poor, poor debater.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:10 pm to
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So people that work low income jobs work every single day? This is a simplistic and utterly bull shite excuse and you know it.



Oh yeah, I forgot, state offices are open on Saturdays and late at night. Hell that makes it even that much easier for us, as a society, to facilitate the mentally ill....


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You are assuming the poor work 16 hours a day based on what? Feelings? If you want to base it on the BLS, the average work week is 34 hours/week. That's for full time employees. ARe you somehow saying that the poor part time worker is working more hours than the full time employee? Your argument if failing around your own words.



I knew I could get on your to rise to the bait....if you are poor and rely on public transportation to get to work it will take you about 16 hours a day to make 8....I knew one of you would have to jump right in and say that poor people weren't working 16 hours a day....damn y'all make a purty noise when you are melting
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:16 pm to
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Voter ID laws are common sense. You know it, i know it, we all know it. You can come on here and pretend like requiring an ID vs. using the honor system is some big travesty and inconvenience to the poor but you have literally zero proof or evidence just based on your idiotic logic that somehow the poorest of society also work 16 hours/day, 365 days/year. Your argument is filled with stupidity. It's evident by the scenario you make up to support it, not by any facts or figures.

You are a poor, poor, poor debater.


The problem with common sense is the same as with all things common...it is common and therefore less valuable. There is nothing at all "common" about the idea that there is significant voter fraud going on in the United States which would be reduced by requiring ID to vote.....in fact that is worse than common sense that is simply ignorant of the numbers involved.

And as I have said about this subject many times the little bit of effort required to obtain an ID is well worth the reduction in pain and suffering those like yourself are reeling under due to the idea that people are making a difference in elections by voting multiple times in person. Y'all are handicapped the same as a person with a couple of legs missing and it is a good and honorable thing to facilitate your needs when it doesn't create to much trouble.....
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