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re: NOAA Whistleblower: How world leaders were duped over manipulated AGW data

Posted on 2/6/17 at 7:47 am to
Posted by BamaChemE
Midland, TX
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/6/17 at 7:47 am to
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I'm about to head to the natural history museum in London, anything you morons want me to ask them since you won't actually persue any real research on this issue on your own?




I'm your huckleberry.


I want you to ask him/her why the predictive computer models always (seriously, it is always) skew the temperature predictions higher than the values measured via satellites.

I'd also like you to ask his/her opinions on why temperature measurements seem to correlate more with solar energy output than CO2 concentrations. While you're at it, ask him about the relative greenhouse effect values of CO2, CH4, and H2O.

Finally, as this is in my opinion the most pressing issue related to climate change, ask him/her how much more CO2 the oceans can handle before the average pH drops even one one hundredth from the established average.


Now I know you think I'm just some toothless, cousin-screwing, mouth breather from Alabama, but I actually have a PhD in chemical engineering with my dissertation being titled "Advanced Solvents for CO2 Separations." In addition, I am fairly well traveled having taught at DTU in Lyngby, Denmark the past two summers, and presented at numerous conferences in the states and abroad.

ETA the gif
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 7:53 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
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Posted on 2/6/17 at 7:48 am to
Posted by Snazzmeister
IHTFP
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:58 am to
I'd be interested in hearing why, in the NOAA study at least, "scientific" error corrections come without any error bars/envelope/analysis. Is it because if you ignore discussion of expected error margins you can tweak it to say whatever the hell you want it to say? Meanwhile, no one with an ounce of academic integrity can trust the data because there's no way of knowing if your "corrected" values are significant or not.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:59 am to
Stand down sir! OldDawg is a diesel mechanic from Waycross, Ga and he has traveled to Florida AND Alabama. He also has access to a climate scientist at a museum. How dare you come up on here with that PH.D. shite about CO2 separations and overseas teaching and presenting at conferences. OldDawg is the REAL authority around here.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17750 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 10:54 am to
quote:

I want you to ask him/her why the predictive computer models always (seriously, it is always) skew the temperature predictions higher than the values measured via satellites.

I'd also like you to ask his/her opinions on why temperature measurements seem to correlate more with solar energy output than CO2 concentrations. While you're at it, ask him about the relative greenhouse effect values of CO2, CH4, and H2O.

Finally, as this is in my opinion the most pressing issue related to climate change, ask him/her how much more CO2 the oceans can handle before the average pH drops even one one hundredth from the established average.

Three excellent questions. I would love to hear a real climate scientist answer them.

I'm assuming olddawg's sudden disappearance from this thread is because he's at the museum getting the answers as he promised.
Posted by bodask42
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
2090 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 3:24 pm to
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Now I know you think I'm just some toothless, cousin-screwing, mouth breather from Alabama, but I actually have a PhD in chemical engineering


C'mon and be honest, are those two necessarily mutually exclusive?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

quote: I'm about to head to the natural history museum in London, anything you morons want me to ask them since you won't actually persue any real research on this issue on your own? I'm your huckleberry. I want you to ask him/her why the predictive computer models always (seriously, it is always) skew the temperature predictions higher than the values measured via satellites. I'd also like you to ask his/her opinions on why temperature measurements seem to correlate more with solar energy output than CO2 concentrations. While you're at it, ask him about the relative greenhouse effect values of CO2, CH4, and H2O. Finally, as this is in my opinion the most pressing issue related to climate change, ask him/her how much more CO2 the oceans can handle before the average pH drops even one one hundredth from the established average.


Im in the fence with AGW

Can you talk more about these topics. Or point me to sources that do.
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