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re: HR 621 - Selling Off Our Public Lands - to be withdrawn

Posted on 2/2/17 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 1:18 pm to
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Speaking of WY, show me a private holding that even comes close to touching the Wind Rivers in terms of wild environment, even if on a smaller scale.

First I wish to point out that we have overwhelming agreement with wilderness and its use.

I will pick land close to private property I own:
Joyce WMA is a 27,487 acre tract located in southern Tangipahoa Parish five miles south of Hammond, LA. The 12,809 acres that originally comprised the WMA was donated by the Joyce Foundation in 1982. In 1994, an additional 2,250 acres was donated to LDWF by the Guste Heirs. The 8,364 acre Salmen/Octavia Tract was acquired in 2008 and the 2,729 acre Dendinger Tract was acquired in 2010. An additional 851 acres and 484 acres are leased from the Joyce Foundation and the Tangipahoa Parish School Board, respectively.

This entire area is a wetland within the Pontchartrain Basin and consists primarily of cypress-tupelo swamp. A large portion of the area is a dense shrub-marsh community with red maple, wax-myrtle, red bay, and younger cypress-tupelo. A 500 acre fresh marsh of primarily maiden-cane is located on the northern portion of the property. Recently, a Limited Access Area (LAA) was established in the northwestern corner of Joyce WMA. The LAA prohibits the use of internal combustion engines year-round (see WMA map for specific location).

The most sought game animals on Joyce WMA include white-tailed deer, waterfowl, rabbit and squirrel. Freshwater fish, including largemouth bass, sunfish, and catfish are also pursued on the area. Alligators and a variety of other herpetofauna are common on this WMA. Bald eagles and osprey nest in and around the WMA. Numerous other species of birds, including neotropical migrants, utilize this coastal forest during fall and spring migrations. Resident waterfowl, including wood ducks, mottled ducks, hooded mergansers, and black-bellied whistling ducks, are found on the area year-round.

I picked this now public land for several reasons. This was federal land acquired by the Louisiana Purchase and the acquisition of Spanish Florida. It was sold to private individuals. It was later donated to the State of Louisiana not the BLM. The state officials decided to make it a public WMA. Most of the land around it is private property and is indistinguishable from it. Private ownership for centuries and state ownership today created a wilderness accessible to people outside of federal control!

The big difference between you and I is faith in the federal government to keep public access to "our" birthright. We do not own it! We share it with your fatassed pussies, PETA, and millions and millions of urbanites who think public lands mean at most a road trip to Ole Faithful. They already outnumber outdoorsmen! How far behind save the whales will be followed by save the elk? If I had a dollar for every time I've heard hunting called murder, I'd be adding to my stock of frozen elk right now. I'm down to one small roast that I regularly check for signs of freezer burn. Think I'll cook it this weekend before I lose it.

New York and California cannot easily prevent Louisiana citizens from hunting state or private property. But they sure as hell can keep us out of the National Forests!
This post was edited on 2/2/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6788 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 1:44 pm to
Great post, I respect the hell out of everything you say here. We do have remarkably similar views on the importance of open lands.

I'll have to look into Joyce, that is a great land preservation success story acted out on a local level. But I would argue that outcome is the exception rather than the rule. And without having looked into the exact legal nature of that parcel, I would also argue that tract will always be somewhat in danger of sell off and subsequent development at the whims of some Baton Rouge politician struggling to find a quick fix to LA's budget woes. Same thing with Alabama state parks (where I'm originally from).

While I actually agree with you on lacking trust in the federal government, I do not see a realistic alternative that can function on a large scale in the preservation of open spaces. The mighty dollar is always a tempting pro-development incentive to a private landowner, even an outdoorsman who values its wild nature. And beyond the benefits to the outdoor way of life, this is an issue of natural security. Much of the land managed by the BLM is developed for natural resources. Harvesting those materials really needs to be done in a (somewhat) methodical manner with eye towards what the country as a whole needs so that we aren't totally reliant on imported material in times of turmoil.

I get your point on increased restrictions on hunting etc but I just don't see that movement right now. Whales are endangered, elk are not. Granted, it's not CA, but I live in CO which is home of countless environmental groups (and is moving more and more to the left) and I see no anti-hunting movement. For now at least, hunters and simple land/ habitat preservationists seem to be happy bedfellows with a mutual beneficial relationship.

Enjoy that elk roast!
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