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re: Man turns camera ticket into constitutional trial of the century
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:08 pm to boxcarbarney
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:08 pm to boxcarbarney
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She asserted that I had violated the “rules of the road” and explained, “you were caught on camera speeding.” I asked her for any evidence. She replied that she did not need evidence. I was deemed liable because an automobile that I own “was caught speeding.” But the complaint is against me, I noted, not my car. But I am liable, she insisted, because I loaned my vehicle to “someone who speeds.”
THIS! I have argued this many times. If I lend my car to someone and they are caught speeding, by an actual cop, am I ticketed? If I lend my car to someone and they get drunk, am I given a DWI/OWI? But because a camera sees my vehicle speeding or running thru a red light, the laws change.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:12 pm to Boudreaux35
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THIS! I have argued this many times. If I lend my car to someone and they are caught speeding, by an actual cop, am I ticketed? If I lend my car to someone and they get drunk, am I given a DWI/OWI? But because a camera sees my vehicle speeding or running thru a red light, the laws change.
Most of the camera tickets allow you to challenge that it wasn't you driving, but you must fill in the blanks who WAS driving your vehicle and their information.
They try to get around Constitutional law by claiming it as a civil offense instead of a criminal one.
It clearly violates due process. bullshite.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:14 pm to Boudreaux35
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If I lend my car to someone and they get drunk, am I given a DWI/OWI?
that's the way the japs do it.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:02 pm to Boudreaux35
All you have to do is identify the driver (usually obvious in the photo) and provide their DLN and you are off the hook. Passed on a couple to my kids and forced them to pay the fines. Don't want to get caught by a camera breaking the law? Don't break the law!
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