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re: British Army admits Russia could destroy their only remaining fighting unit...
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:35 am to Tigeralum2008
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:35 am to Tigeralum2008
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Advanced weapons systems and electronics will win the next European war over superior numbers
Advanced weapons systems have to be deployed in enough numbers to overcome numbers. Look at the Germans in WWII. Compared to Soviet weapons and equipment, the Germans were far and away more advanced and sophisticated than their Soviet counterparts. How did that work out for the Germans?
But what you say is possible. However, as the Sherman's in WWII showed us, you still need at least some numbers and right now NATOs numbers a pathetically low. Low enough that they'd have no hope of overcoming Russia's numbers. And beyond that, not only do the Russians have the numbers on their side, they also are modernizing their forces as well.
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:50 am to Darth_Vader
Admittedly, not military.
But...is this sort if information possibly why Trump asked "why" tactical nukes couldn't be used?
But...is this sort if information possibly why Trump asked "why" tactical nukes couldn't be used?
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:26 am to Darth_Vader
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Advanced weapons systems have to be deployed in enough numbers to overcome numbers. Look at the Germans in WWII. Compared to Soviet weapons and equipment, the Germans were far and away more advanced and sophisticated than their Soviet counterparts. How did that work out for the Germans?
^This.
Take our fighters for example. In a war with Russia, air superiority is a must. Now, we have the best in the Raptor. The F-35 is a duck. However, let's just say it worked. Against overwhelming numbers, sure they'd knock down more than a few. But, what happens when they run out missiles? Internally, they can only carry 4 each. So, just for arguments sake, what happens when there are just a few more planes than weapons carried? Now, granted the Raptor and F-35 can hang weapons on their wings, but when that happens the pylons and all become great big shining beacons, nullifying any stealth advantage. And, let's not forget the advances in radar that are nullifying any stealth advantage in the first place. Pretty soon, it will be back to the old ways, just shinier toys.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:38 am to Darth_Vader
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Advanced weapons systems have to be deployed in enough numbers to overcome numbers. Look at the Germans in WWII. Compared to Soviet weapons and equipment, the Germans were far and away more advanced and sophisticated than their Soviet counterparts. How did that work out for the Germans?
Let's be honest. If anyone other than that idiot Hitler was in charge of the German war machine, they would have won WWII. Hitler made numerous strategic and tactical errors that negated his technological advantage.
The US will make some mistakes but not nearly of the same magnitude.
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But what you say is possible. However, as the Sherman's in WWII showed us, you still need at least some numbers and right now NATOs numbers a pathetically low. Low enough that they'd have no hope of overcoming Russia's numbers. And beyond that, not only do the Russians have the numbers on their side, they also are modernizing their forces as well.
The Russian modernization should be of concern in an era where European military cutbacks are erroding their tech advantage.
being able to defeat infantry based antitank systems could shift the balance in the favor of Russia's superior numbers.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:29 pm to Darth_Vader
Darth thanks for all the info. I always enjoy these threads.
Something that has not been mentioned in this thread that I would like those of you in the know to comment on is the effect of an EMP at the beginning of hostilities. I assume some but not all military equipment are hardened against an EMP but not everything and certainly not civilian transportation and equipment.
What are yalls thought on the effect an EMP would have if used just prior to an attack. Certainly that would negatively affect a countries ability to move equipment around. Trains would not work and the interstates would be clogged with cars that would not start... The affected governments would also have to deal with trying to feed their people at the same time fend off an attack.
Thoughts??
Something that has not been mentioned in this thread that I would like those of you in the know to comment on is the effect of an EMP at the beginning of hostilities. I assume some but not all military equipment are hardened against an EMP but not everything and certainly not civilian transportation and equipment.
What are yalls thought on the effect an EMP would have if used just prior to an attack. Certainly that would negatively affect a countries ability to move equipment around. Trains would not work and the interstates would be clogged with cars that would not start... The affected governments would also have to deal with trying to feed their people at the same time fend off an attack.
Thoughts??
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