re: Echo Dot the most useless thing ever invented? ETA CAD giving it another go

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have a hub, dont have any amazon services

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It works with the hub. I synced my hub to the Echo, not my devices. The Echo still controls the devices. Non-Amazon related.

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i have honeywell stats

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It works with Honeywell stats.

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my cracked apps are FAR better than those commerical-infested crippled services

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Maybe so, but hard to compete with illegal services. Fact is the device will still play music from the apps, free or paid

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HELL TO THE frickING NO!! i don't need alexa randomly ordering shite for me because my kids have figured out talking to it and start telling it to order candy bars and potato chips

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You can put a passcode protection to keep the order from being processed (This also applies to available banking skills). The device can still add it to a list, put it in your cart, or add something to an external list app (such as grocery list app, etc.).