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re: Interesting article on NCAA Refs
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:14 pm to Tiger Tracker
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:14 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Do you have any evidence to prove this. Could you provide me with every missed call in favor of Bama vs every other SEC team? Conspiracy theory is fine, but i just like to look at the situation based on unbiased data.
Not a conspiracy theory, just what we have seen with our own eyes. 3 holds on one TD scramble by Hurts this season.
The Patrick Peterson no call on a clear INT. Made even worse when the whole world knows it was a pick and the SEC office backed the refs call.
In that same game Jordan Jefferson was speared in the chest by a Bama D lineman and there was no call.
2014 A Bama D line man is pulling the leg of a LSU O lineman after the play in sight of the whole world. When the LSU player shook him off they called a unsportsmanlike penalty on LSU. On a play inside the 3 yrd line, turn a drive that would likely had turn into a TD in to a FG and keeping Bama within striking distance to win which they eventually did. Now in all of these games Bama earned the wins. I am not saying LSU was cheated ( except for the Peterson pick ) but your delusional if you can't see that these refs stack the deck for Alabama.
This post was edited on 12/25/16 at 5:15 pm
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Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:15 pm to Tiger Tracker
It's pure coincidence that the bad calls always and without exception favor Bama and/or Auburn. Nothing to see here! Move along people.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:17 pm to Tiger1988
Yep. I agree those calls or missed calls are very infuriating. Pisses me off too. I just don't think that evidence by itself proves anything about conscious bias amongst officials.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:18 pm to Number 31
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It's pure coincidence that the bad calls always and without exception favor Bama and/or Auburn.
You know this is not true, right?
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:22 pm to Tiger Tracker
Funny how quickly people forget.
We had Bama beat in 2014. A minute left near the goaline and Bama players scramble to provoke our players into a penalty. A Bama player literally lifts Vadal Alexander's leg up for him to lose his balance and Vadal pushes on the guy to regain his balance and get him off his leg. Ref calls flag and it backs us up. BAMA wins.
You got the PP interception with 3 feet in bounds and replay. Then this past game, blatant holding on half our defense.
Money is everything. SEC wants the SEC to have to best chance to make playoffs and win natty. Usually the best chance is Bama, and the SEC as a whole (including the officials) will lobby their asses off until it happens.
We had Bama beat in 2014. A minute left near the goaline and Bama players scramble to provoke our players into a penalty. A Bama player literally lifts Vadal Alexander's leg up for him to lose his balance and Vadal pushes on the guy to regain his balance and get him off his leg. Ref calls flag and it backs us up. BAMA wins.
You got the PP interception with 3 feet in bounds and replay. Then this past game, blatant holding on half our defense.
Money is everything. SEC wants the SEC to have to best chance to make playoffs and win natty. Usually the best chance is Bama, and the SEC as a whole (including the officials) will lobby their asses off until it happens.
This post was edited on 12/25/16 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:24 pm to Tiger Tracker
I'm not the guy at all. You have me confused. I wasn't even a huge Herman fan and definitely had no inside information.
Tbh, I think you are a bama troll. You are going overboard defending bama.
Tbh, I think you are a bama troll. You are going overboard defending bama.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:25 pm to GratefulTiger
I think there is a strong pressure for the SEC to be in the national title mix which may have a modicum of influence, Alabama has been that university
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:26 pm to Tiger Tracker
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It's pure coincidence that the bad calls always and without exception favor Bama and/or Auburn.
You know this is not true, right?
Hester's non-catch, LaFell's mugging twice in the endzone. Let's say in 2006 it was CLEAR THAT AU got a shitload of calls that ultimately cost LSU a shot at a title. You are stupid if you don't believe these are not proof.
There are countless examples of this.
Julio Jones non lock-in the back calls were the game at Bama.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:28 pm to Tiger Tracker
Referees need to be full time employees. No excuse.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:30 pm to Tiger1988
People who have all of this conspiracy theory need nsrns have never called a game. I have for 33 years and you all have no idea of the speed of the game and really have no real ida what us actually holding. You may think you do, but you really don't. You would pee all over yourself if you got out there and actually tried t do it.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:30 pm to wfallstiger
quote:absolutely true.
Interesting article on NCAA Refs
I think there is a strong pressure for the SEC to be in the national title mix which may have a modicum of influence, Alabama has been that university
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:32 pm to Tiger1988
To the morons, there does not need to be some independent body looking over more than 300 plus colleges. There is no way that could be done
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:33 pm to someoldhussy
You must be a fricking moron... The law of averages doesnt show when calls are made or not made. Thats the gripe LSU fans have. I could care less that we have the same amount of penalties called if ours are called on touchdown plays and theres are called at meaningless spots in the game.
Plain and Simple
Plain and Simple
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:35 pm to wfallstiger
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I have wondered if replay of calls in game has impacted how they call a game. If I miss it replay will make it right...on some things, obviously.
The sad part is we already know that they miss tons of calls on reviewable things so you kjow damn well they are missing penalties and calling bad penalties.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:35 pm to Tiger1988
Absolutely True... nonsense. I have officiated for 33 years and we don't that. You spirits bar heroes have no clue!! Put a whistles around your neck and a striped shirt on and sed if you can keep from piscina g all over yourself.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:35 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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but your delusional if you can't see that these refs stack the deck for Alabama.
Again, your looking at...what...3 or 4 games here? You take that small subset of data and then make a broad generalization from it.
How many plays were run in those games? How many fouls were called? How many of those fouls were bad calls? I'm sorry if i am delusional because I try to look at more than four games before coming to a conclusion.
Just as an example of other data to consider, in 2016, LSU had fewer penalties and fewer penalty yardage than Bama did, but in 2015 LSU was much worse thab Bama. I think that is a direct reflection of poor coaching/preparation on CLM's part, and not a reflection of refs stacking the deck for Bama, as you put it.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:35 pm to Chaseff
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People who have all of this conspiracy theory need nsrns have never called a game. I have for 33 years and you all have no idea of the speed of the game and really have no real ida what us actually holding. You may think you do, but you really don't. You would pee all over yourself if you got out there and actually tried t do it.
I called baseball basketball for 15 years in the BR area and football for 5 years before I had to choose. Basketball was more demanding and umping was by far the most difficult based on fan reactions to how I called a game. I actually called my first scrimmage when Ben was at Denham Springs. I almost quit after that first scrimmage.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:37 pm to Tiger Tracker
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You know this is not true, right?
You cant be serious.
I can name about 15 different calls and non calls that went Bama's way against us while all bama fans can claim is one time when Webster pushed their guy doen in the endzone. Its literally their only gripe.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:43 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Again, your looking at...what...3 or 4 games here? You take that small subset of data and then make a broad generalization from it.
Well yeah. All the other games bama is far enough ahead to not need their nudge.
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How many plays were run in those games? How many fouls were called? How many of those fouls were bad calls? I'm sorry if i am delusional because I try to look at more than four games before coming to a conclusion.
There is a difference between calling holding and negating an offensive play and calling some bullshite foul that tacks on 5 yards.
You can name multiple times when bama got calls that outright affected the outcome of games.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:46 pm to TigerinDunbarton
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TigerinDunbarton
Go away lying troll.
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Posted by TigerinDunbarton on 11/24/16 at 11:15 pm to DmitriKaramazov
Herman has and has had a binding agreement ever since miles was fired. Aleeva didn't Frick this up this time. I've known a while, and is why I bashed all the supposed experts on jimbo.
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